We need some C depth that can win draws and though Lubo would be a few month rental, I'd take him over Whitney for the rest of the season.
Isle get a player that they could possibly re-sign, and a pick for a depth C they don't need.
I would certainly like to see that deal, however after yesterday's Bruins/Isles deal, I get a sneeking suspision that Visnovsky will be Bruins bound at some point.
If you have the opportunity to add a Brouwer. You do it. If you have to send Paajarvi/Hartikainen to the minors so be it. If you have to waive Hordichuk, so be it.
Shouldn't let players who are worse right now get in the way of getting better.
I agree. I wouldn't even be opposed to moving a Petrell or Jones if it meant an upgrade on them.
The Caps are going to fire Oates before they trade Ovie, Green, or anyone else that's big on their team.
Trading a Brouwer or Laich isn't going to stir the pot in Washington. I sincerely doubt they'll trade Ovechkin. I could see Green being moved, though... But we already have a Mike Green style of D-man in Justin Schultz, and I would argue that Schultz is quite a bit better defensively than Green already.
You gotta think, if you're a struggling team like Washington, you probably don't want to make a lateral trade. You want to make a trade that is going to improve your team. I don't think we're in the business to improve someone else's team yet.
I still think we should give Jason Arnott a call. I think he could fit a need until the end of this season and he could finish his career where it started.
Sometimes all it takes is the lateral moves to give everyone a reality check.
I would certainly like to see that deal, however after yesterday's Bruins/Isles deal, I get a sneeking suspision that Visnovsky will be Bruins bound at some point.
Just tell Snow that we'll trade a pick a 7th for lubo and then waiver Potter and Hordi for him to pick up.
No ones missing him, he just has an aversion to crossing the Atlantic. The Caps are pretty desperate for him right now, imo.
I don't think it's aversion, it's just the Russian Ice Hockey fed "blackmailing" players into staying home or no chance at Sochi 2014. IIRC, there was a news blurb about him really wanting to play for Russian in the Olympics so he's doing whatever it takes to get that opportunity, even if it meant giving up a few years of NHL.
I think every team in the league would love to have him but there is not much chance he will come to the NHL. He seems to really like it at home.
I wonder if having Yakupov might persuade him?
After the Sochi Olympics Kuznetsov will be in NHL first chance he gets..
“I promised to play for Washington after the Olympics,” Kuznetsov said, as translated by RMNB’s Fedor Fedin. “I want to play in [DC], but I’m playing for Traktor right now. I have a contract and I will continue to fight with sweat and blood playing for such a great club.”
“Of course, my main goal is to make it to the Olympics,” Kuznetsov said to Evgenia Skroznikova. “If I were to go to the NHL – and what if I couldn’t prove myself right away and would be sent to the minor leagues – that would be the end for my Olympic dream. Here I will have visibility and a chance to prove myself, and to play during Eurotour.”
My mistake... with injury to Ray Whitney.. Morrow-Benn-Jagr was the top line against us.. But even as a 3rd liner his value is much higher than Whitney.
If you have the opportunity to add a Brouwer. You do it. If you have to send Paajarvi/Hartikainen to the minors so be it. If you have to waive Hordichuk, so be it.
Shouldn't let players who are worse right now get in the way of getting better.
Well where do you play him? We have 2 offensively gifted C's, does Brouwer play third line? Or does Hemsky or Yak?
I dont generally disagree but acquiring Brouwer means someone offensively gifted is stuck with Horcoff.
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here is a low risk / reward type deal - two vets who have been healthy scratched recently and don't seem to be in the long term plans of their club
Hamrlik for Whitney
both are bottom pairing guys at this stage of thier careers, ufa after this season. If thier play doesn't improve, this might be their last season. Could shake up both teams a little bit
Im fine with trading Whitney but apart from him, only Schultz has a good breakout. Petry's is ok, and the rest isnt all that great. Our transition game needs to be good if were to have a chance to get the best out of our forwards.
Well where do you play him? We have 2 offensively gifted C's, does Brouwer play third line? Or does Hemsky or Yak?
I dont generally disagree but acquiring Brouwer means someone offensively gifted is stuck with Horcoff.
I don't think Brouwer playing 3rd line would be that far fetched. At the same time he'll have room to move up. We aren't going to always be healthy either and it would be nice to see a Brouwer going from line 3 to line 2, instead of Smyth or Petrell.
I don't think Brouwer is going to be available though.
Edit: Marchand, call him a 45 point guy on the conservative side? A point total that Brouwer has never touched, is getting 3rd line time.
here is a low risk / reward type deal - two vets who have been healthy scratched recently and don't seem to be in the long term plans of their club
Hamrlik for Whitney
both are bottom pairing guys at this stage of thier careers, ufa after this season. If thier play doesn't improve, this might be their last season. Could shake up both teams a little bit
Im fine with trading Whitney but apart from him, only Schultz has a good breakout. Petry's is ok, and the rest isnt all that great. Our transition game needs to be good if were to have a chance to get the best out of our forwards.
I think I'd ask "Is Hamrlik>Potter".
If the answer is yes why not take him?
Edit:Okay it was more Hamrlik for Whitney. I think I keep Whitney and try Potter for Hamrlik.
Just spit balling as I'm looking at Washington, but with the emergence of Kundratek on the back end where does that leave Orlov?
Wonder if he's a guy we should target.
Assets: Is mobile, aggressive and displays all-around ability from the back end. Can put up solid offensive numbers and play a physical game from the back end. Is adept at hitting opponents in open ice.
Flaws: Needs to read the play better, so as to not get caught out of position too often. His aggressiveness can also be a negative while on the ice, so he could use more refinement. Isn't a power-play QB.
Career Potential: All-round defenseman with good upside.
I was thinking the same thing about a Whitney/Hamrlik swap for a couple of days now. Hamrlik being a RHS would not only replace Whitney, but also take Potter's spot at RD on the 3rd pair.
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I just don't know that we have room for him right now. If we had a better top 4 that would allow our bottom pairing to mistakes then fine, but all we hear after every game is how Whitney or Potter screwed up. Have to think you probably could throw Ellerby's name there is we had him.
I also wonder how much better he is than Teubert. Either way I'm a bit shocked that's all he went for.
I was thinking the same thing about a Whitney/Hamrlik swap for a couple of days now. Hamrlik being a RHS would not only replace Whitney, but also take Potter's spot at RD on the 3rd pair.
Just spit balling as I'm looking at Washington, but with the emergence of Kundratek on the back end where does that leave Orlov?
Wonder if he's a guy we should target.
Assets: Is mobile, aggressive and displays all-around ability from the back end. Can put up solid offensive numbers and play a physical game from the back end. Is adept at hitting opponents in open ice.
Flaws: Needs to read the play better, so as to not get caught out of position too often. His aggressiveness can also be a negative while on the ice, so he could use more refinement. Isn't a power-play QB.
Career Potential: All-round defenseman with good upside.
19 points in 60 games last year, 90 hits
This basically sums up Whitney right now... I think they Oilers need to play Fistric every game (not sure why they haven't been..) and trade Whitney and some picks/prospects for a upgrade.
Which is all irrelevant to the point. Oilers have an owner willing to spend to win a cup. Isles have an owner who will ditch whatever asset it takes to save a few pennies
After the initial we will always spend to the cap mantra we haven't spent to the cap. Spending to the cap alone does not make a franchise a joke or not a joke. My point stands, calling that organization a joke as an oiler fan is totally casting stones while living in a glass house.
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