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02-03-2013, 05:45 PM
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Whenever an assumption leads to speculation of the existence of a conspiracy (especially of that scale) it is not a safe assumption.

Ignoring the fact that I'm bias and have seen the Habs burned by bad calls way to many times to believe we benefit from a conspiracy, let me ask the following question:

Does anyone believe that the NHL and the refs are really smart enough to run a scheme like that? Really?

Anyhoo, look at NHL.com and see how many times the Habs are penalized:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm...Name=penalties

If there is a conspiracy, they aren't doing a very good job.
I agree this has nothing to do with the Habs, it's just a case of a ref blowing a call which cost us 1 or 2pts. It's very frustrating, refs are deciding games right now this is not good for the NHL.

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02-03-2013, 05:48 PM
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I agree this has nothing to do with the Habs, it's just a case of a ref blowing a call which cost us 1 or 2pts. It's very frustrating, refs are deciding games right now this is not good for the NHL.
Agreed, which is why a call like that should be reviewable, either by coach's challenge (preferable) or a call from the headquarters in Toronto.

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That was turrible.

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02-03-2013, 05:51 PM
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haha.
time for another mid-season nhl rule change.
what a joke league.

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02-03-2013, 05:51 PM
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It will become a tactic if it isn't already... goalie drifts out and bumps into a player, goes down to draw the penalty... stakes are high with that kind of "dive", cuz if it isn't called it's really risky, maybe we don't have the goalie personality today that takes max advantage of that, but if this keeps up, I bet we see the dives more too.

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02-03-2013, 05:53 PM
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I can only assume the refs have been instructed to make these calls, as long as it's consistent (which is seems to be) I don't see a problem

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02-03-2013, 05:53 PM
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the NHL should just hire some rodeo clowns to run on the ice at random and cause a ruckus. This way it would be understandable when a team got screwed. It would also allow the refs to focus on the game rather than trying to be Heroes.

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02-03-2013, 05:54 PM
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It will become a tactic if it isn't already... goalie drifts out and bumps into a player, goes down to draw the penalty... stakes are high with that kind of "dive", cuz if it isn't called it's really risky, maybe we don't have the goalie personality today that takes max advantage of that, but if this keeps up, I bet we see the dives more too.
Rask had a great dive last night.

It won't surprise me if goalies just adapt to get more of these terrible calls. Be near someone screening you, engage in a bit of contact, put your hands up when you get scored on and the get the ref to bite on the call.

I'm pretty sure Carey Price even knew that was a good goal, he never complained at all.

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From another thread.

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1-While that's a little easier to argue, it ignores the fact that it hasn't enefited Montreal a whole lot since they get called for a ton of penalties at home ice as well.

2-If that's true (which I highly doubt), it's more of plus to Habs fans than anything else.
Exactly. I wasn't slighting the Habs for it lol.

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The exact same thing happened to the habs in the opening minutes in their first game this season

Nothing to see, move on.
This makes the problem bigger, not smaller.

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02-03-2013, 05:56 PM
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I can only assume the refs have been instructed to make these calls, as long as it's consistent (which is seems to be) I don't see a problem
What's the point having refs then?

You and I can ref the game without knowing all the rules, we'll call the game terribly, but it will be consistently terrible.

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02-03-2013, 05:58 PM
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Agreed, which is why a call like that should be reviewable, either by coach's challenge (preferable) or a call from the headquarters in Toronto.
Couldn't agree with you more, it makes perfect sense right? What are the NHL waiting for then? What If the Sens miss the playoffs by 1 or 2pts, will the NHL pay the Sens for all the lost income?

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Sens get screwed today another team gets it tomorrow, certainly will happen again... you hope it evens out over the year

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02-03-2013, 06:00 PM
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Why did he get a 2 minute penalty though? Usually those are just called no goal, no penalty.

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I can only assume the refs have been instructed to make these calls, as long as it's consistent (which is seems to be) I don't see a problem
Who cares if it's consistent? I would prefer it not to be called at all in these situations, and actually see players being allowed to screen the goalie.

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02-03-2013, 06:00 PM
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What's the point having refs then?

You and I can ref the game without knowing all the rules, we'll call the game terribly, but it will be consistently terrible.
No not really, there is a difference. Speaking as an actual real life ref in my opinion it's better to disallow every single goal where the goalie was knocked down on the play, than to have some of them disallowed and some of them allowed.

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02-03-2013, 06:02 PM
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this call was double awful:

awful call by the ref
awful call by Bob Cole.... just retire

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02-03-2013, 06:03 PM
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But the Senators may argue he in fact allowed two on Sunday.

With the Canadiens ahead 2-1 early in the second period, Senators defenseman Andre Benoit appeared to beat Price with a wrist shot from the point for his first career goal thanks to a screen by Silfverberg. But referee Brian Pochmara immediately waved the goal off, determining Silfverberg’s screen was a little too good and sending him to the box for goaltender interference. Replays appeared to suggest, however, that Silfverberg made minimal contact with Price, who was outside his crease at the time.
I suppose Silf is just too good at screening.

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02-03-2013, 06:05 PM
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Maybe they just need to make the creases a little bit bigger, then. Goalies play off the top of the crease on a lot of point shots or other longer distance ones, like the call today, Price was way out to/past the top. If you can't even brush a goalie, anywhere, I guess it's one thing. But if you can sometimes, just a little, and can't other times, it gets more frustrating. Easier on everybody if you add a few feet to the crease and just say any contact of any kind inside that enlarged crease is automatically a penalty, no matter what. Seems excessive to me, but I'd rather have that than unpredictability.

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02-03-2013, 06:08 PM
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Why did he get a 2 minute penalty though? Usually those are just called no goal, no penalty.
Make up for the BS call on Plekanecs.

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02-03-2013, 06:09 PM
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I can only assume the refs have been instructed to make these calls, as long as it's consistent (which is seems to be) I don't see a problem
The problem is that the goaltender is not being interfered with, simply put.

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02-03-2013, 06:09 PM
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Seriously this game was so badly officiated culminating with that call.

The Gorges boarding penalty was laughable. Was made even more laughable when a clear boarding on Bouillon minutes later wasn't called.

The Condra interference was ******** and so was the Bouillon dive call.

Overall the Habs played a better game than Ottawa and probably deserved the win after all is said and done but the refs really need to get better because it's getting ridiculous.

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02-03-2013, 06:10 PM
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No not really, there is a difference. Speaking as an actual real life ref in my opinion it's better to disallow every single goal where the goalie was knocked down on the play, than to have some of them disallowed and some of them allowed.
So any time the goalie skates out of the crease and bumps into someone it shroud be a penalty.

That makes no sense. This was an outrageous call and there is no excusing it.

Maclean bites his tongue:

.http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports/index.html

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02-03-2013, 06:11 PM
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The problem is that the goaltender is not being interfered with, simply put.
Yes I agree it's BS, but if every team is being screwed by it, not just a few, then nobody should be whining.

Think of it this way, if your team gets screwed by this call and has a goal waved off, then the exact thing happens with another team but their goal is allowed, you're not going to be happy are you?

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