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02-05-2013, 03:14 AM
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Philip Kessel

BEFORE YOU GO CRAZY, I IN NO WAY THINK TORONTO IS GOING TO TRADE KESSEL, NOR DO I WANT TO HEAR THE "ONLY TRADING HIM FOR A CENTRE" STUFF.. I STRICTLY WANT TO KNOW HIS TRADE VALUE FOR ANECDOTAL REASONS.

So, now that I cleared that up... what do you think his value is? His cap hit is $5.4mil for the next 2 years..
If you could give his value with and without draft picks that would be fantastic, thanks.

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obligatory with draft picks: 1st+1st+2nd
obligatory without: seguin+hamilton+knight

lol with that said he's a pure sniper whose tallied 30+ goals for like 4 or 5 straight seasons now and we've seen that he can be a ppg player. So I'd say he certainly hasn't done anything to drop his initial value so probably a bluechip prospect+ mid 1st+2nd?

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As a Canucks fan, I'd give up two 1sts + 2nd.

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My estemed personal fit is to one of 3 choices................1) Vancouver for Luongo and a 1st, 2) The capitals for Laich, Alzner and 1st. 3) Colorado Avalanche for Stasny, 1st and Oreilly.

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obligatory with draft picks: 1st+1st+2nd
obligatory without: seguin+hamilton+knight


lol with that said he's a pure sniper whose tallied 30+ goals for like 4 or 5 straight seasons now and we've seen that he can be a ppg player. So I'd say he certainly hasn't done anything to drop his initial value so probably a bluechip prospect+ mid 1st+2nd?
How did I not see that coming?

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Decent player + 1st + Decent Prospect ish?

Scheinder, Gaunce, 1st for Kessel + one of Reimer or Scrivens?

Wont happen but that value looks right...maybe add a 2nd in a couple years.

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He has 1 more year left on his contract and after that he'll be given a huge deal to... score goals(which he has 0 of in 9 games this year). He plays on the outside of the rink, shoots from the outside, brings zero physicality, goes into witness protection when hit early in a game.

So not only would a team have to give up good assets to get a one dimensional, small, soft scorer but they'd also have to re-sign that player at 6+ million per year long term...

I'd do Booth and Schneider or Schneider and a 1st for him because I think he's a nice complimentary piece on a great team. Still can't believe Burke thought he was a franchise player and someone to build around.

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He has 1 more year left on his contract and after that he'll be given a huge deal to... score goals(which he has 0 of in 9 games this year). He plays on the outside of the rink, shoots from the outside, brings zero physicality, goes into witness protection when hit early in a game.

So not only would a team have to give up good assets to get a one dimensional, small, soft scorer but they'd also have to re-sign that player at 6+ million per year long term...

I'd do Booth and Schneider or Schneider and a 1st for him because I think he's a nice complimentary piece on a great team. Still can't believe Burke thought he was a franchise player and someone to build around.
So according to you he's pretty much a 30 goal scoring pile of dog ****? Yet you'd trade a very good cheap young goalie and a first?

I really feel bad for kessel. I hope he never reads this crap.

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So according to you he's pretty much a 30 goal scoring pile of dog ****? Yet you'd trade a very good cheap young goalie and a first?

I really feel bad for kessel. I hope he never reads this crap.
I do! I'd be honoured to have him read my thread

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My estemed personal fit is to one of 3 choices................1) Vancouver for Luongo and a 1st, 2) The capitals for Laich, Alzner and 1st. 3) Colorado Avalanche for Stasny, 1st and Oreilly.

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What do the Leafs need now? A centre right? What about straight up for a good centreman? Unless the Leafs are looking to do a full rebuild, I don't think they'd go for a mediocre player plus high picks.

Something like a Kessel for Getzlaf or something along those lines.

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My estemed personal fit is to one of 3 choices................1) Vancouver for Luongo and a 1st, 2) The capitals for Laich, Alzner and 1st. 3) Colorado Avalanche for Stasny, 1st and Oreilly.
One of these proposals is considerably weaker than the other 2...

Seems like someone overvalues Bobby Lu...

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What do the Leafs need now? A centre right? What about straight up for a good centreman? Unless the Leafs are looking to do a full rebuild, I don't think they'd go for a mediocre player plus high picks.

Something like a Kessel for Getzlaf or something along those lines.
The Ducks are 6-1-1 at the moment...
So it's safe to say that this won't happen.

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He's not going to get what Burke paid to get him. Plain and simple.

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i guarantee you he will not leave unless it is massive overpayment

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Both Toronto & LA could use a shake up. I think the Mike Richards for Phil Kessel trade makes sense for both sides. Would have LA add though, maybe Dwight King?

King & Richards for Kessel.

I think Richards would excel in Toronto, and I can't stand the guy so as a Bruins fan I'd love/hate to see him back in the mix several times a year.

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i guarantee you he will not leave unless it is massive overpayment
Via UFA?

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Decent player + 1st + Decent Prospect ish?

Scheinder, Gaunce, 1st for Kessel + one of Reimer or Scrivens?

Wont happen but that value looks right...maybe add a 2nd in a couple years.
no it doesn't

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BEFORE YOU GO CRAZY, I IN NO WAY THINK TORONTO IS GOING TO TRADE KESSEL, NOR DO I WANT TO HEAR THE "ONLY TRADING HIM FOR A CENTRE" STUFF.. I STRICTLY WANT TO KNOW HIS TRADE VALUE FOR ANECDOTAL REASONS.

So, now that I cleared that up... what do you think his value is? His cap hit is $5.4mil for the next 2 years..
If you could give his value with and without draft picks that would be fantastic, thanks.
we had this thread yesterday

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Way too formal for my taste.

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Richards and Clifford for Kessel.

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Both Toronto & LA could use a shake up. I think the Mike Richards for Phil Kessel trade makes sense for both sides. Would have LA add though, maybe Dwight King?

King & Richards for Kessel.

I think Richards would excel in Toronto, and I can't stand the guy so as a Bruins fan I'd love/hate to see him back in the mix several times a year.
I like this, one of the few deals id accept. It doesnt even have to be King, could be Penner as a dump and id be happy.

This is the exact type of deal we should be looking for, a swap to fill a need rather than full-rebuild


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Kessel to Minnesota

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Phils a great scorer, i seriously think he will be traded. Will be for a centre.

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Both Toronto & LA could use a shake up. I think the Mike Richards for Phil Kessel trade makes sense for both sides. Would have LA add though, maybe Dwight King?

King & Richards for Kessel.

I think Richards would excel in Toronto, and I can't stand the guy so as a Bruins fan I'd love/hate to see him back in the mix several times a year.
Not a bad idea. Los Angeles would have to add though.

Who's better, Ryan O'Reilly or Mike Richards?

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