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01-24-2013, 12:00 AM
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Spanish tv deal for the NHL

They NHL is the only major sport without a spanish tv deal. With the demographic changing how is the NHL suppose to survive in the future?

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I ran into a NHL stream a couple days ago and it was in Portuguese. I believe it was being broadcasted in Portugal than Brasil.

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this is certainly an area the NHL has to work on. In canada, the "National" contracts with CBC and TSN are all english-only, and then RDS pays a separate fee for french. Hopefully the NBC/NBCSports contract allows for US spanish rights to be sold to a separate network. Yeah, the rights wouldnt be worth much right now, but surely someone would pay something for it.

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IIRC, there are a few teams that have Spanish (radio) feeds of their games.

(I know the MLB San Francisco Giants have one.)

It's a matter of being "relevant" enough in a local market, and having a radio and/or TV station on board to partner with team.

Vancouver has a Punjabi simulcast.

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IIRC, there are a few teams that have Spanish (radio) feeds of their games.

(I know the MLB San Francisco Giants have one.)

It's a matter of being "relevant" enough in a local market, and having a radio and/or TV station on board to partner with team.

Vancouver has a Punjabi simulcast.
CBC has a Punjabi broadcoast available on line. I am still a bit puzzled by that one, I can't say I know much about Punjabi but it doesn't strike me as a particularly large demographic...

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CBC has a Punjabi broadcoast available on line. I am still a bit puzzled by that one, I can't say I know much about Punjabi but it doesn't strike me as a particularly large demographic...
When was the last time you were in Vancouver?

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The Sikh/Punjabi community is Canada's largest Indian group and an outright majority group in several areas of the GTA and Greater Vancouver.

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The Sikh/Punjabi community is Canada's largest Indian group and an outright majority group in several areas of the GTA and Greater Vancouver.
#3 language at last census, pulling ahead of chinese (all). 430k speakers, heavily concentrated in vancouver and toronto.

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The sport is simply not big among Hispanics in America right now. It'll be a while before teams start shelling out money to pay Spanish-speaking announcers.

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It'd be interesting for someone (I'm thinking Florida here, really) to try and reach out to the Hispanic community, as an experiment just to see if any headway could be made. That's a market the NHL needs to reach, instead they're letting the other leagues (including MLS) take all the initiative. That Onion article really isn't that far off the truth.

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I ran into a NHL stream a couple days ago and it was in Portuguese. I believe it was being broadcasted in Portugal than Brasil.
Wow, PM me about it!

I don't think anyone in Brazil knows what ice hockey is, though. I sure didn't before I moved to Canada.

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CBC has a Punjabi broadcoast available on line. I am still a bit puzzled by that one, I can't say I know much about Punjabi but it doesn't strike me as a particularly large demographic...
Just visit Toronto or Vancouver. More specifically, suburbs like Surrey, BC, and Mississauga, ON, and Brampton, ON, have many, many Punjabis. Combined, it could be upwards of 400,000 people. And there is decent hockey interest in those areas, especially among second-generation Punjabis.

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I don't think anyone in Brazil knows what ice hockey is, though.
I've seen multiple Brazilian hockey fans posting at stream-sites in the past. I believe ESPN Brasil hold the NHL rights and show the occasional game.

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I've seen multiple Brazilian hockey fans posting at stream-sites in the past. I believe ESPN Brasil hold the NHL rights and show the occasional game.
There will always be a small niche of fans who like North American sports, but the penetration among the general population is insignificant.

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Do hockey fans need someone to scream "goal" at the top of his lungs like they do with Soccer?

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Do hockey fans need someone to scream "goal" at the top of his lungs like they do with Soccer?
My moneys on Rick Jeanneret

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Do hockey fans need someone to scream "goal" at the top of his lungs like they do with Soccer?
They do it with touchdowns in NFL broadcasts.

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Did Brazil not have a team in one of the lower WJC tournaments this past year?

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Did Brazil not have a team in one of the lower WJC tournaments this past year?
They are an IIHF member nation but I don't think they've ever had a team compete in any international competitions, could be wrong though,

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They are an IIHF member nation but I don't think they've ever had a team compete in any international competitions, could be wrong though,
There are 4+ levels of competition in the IIHF.

US and Canada, for instance, and many of the big European teams, are at the top level. (Which include Olympics, WJC, etc.)

Other countries, including Brazil, Mexico, etc., participate in the lower levels.

Most discussion on HF Boards is (only) of the top level.

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Do hockey fans need someone to scream "goal" at the top of his lungs like they do with Soccer?
And this "harmless" comment is exactly why hockey will never grow beyond white countries and has barely grown to minorities in white countries unlike football or basketball or even baseball to a lesser extent. NHL has done a terrible job of marketing themselves outside the safe zones. In fact they've done a terrible job of marketing themselves to places they expanded to. The Dallas Stars have a fan base because the Dallas Stars put the work in to market hockey in Texas, the NHL sure didn't contribute to that.

Btw do you mean Spanish as in NAmerican Spanish channels or Spanish as in Spain?

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They are an IIHF member nation but I don't think they've ever had a team compete in any international competitions, could be wrong though,
I believe their IIHF membership is primarily for the purpose of participating in the inline hockey competitions the IIHF arrange.

They aren't the only IIHF member with that type of arrangement, I know Namibia is another one.

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There are 4+ levels of competition in the IIHF.

US and Canada, for instance, and many of the big European teams, are at the top level. (Which include Olympics, WJC, etc.)

Other countries, including Brazil, Mexico, etc., participate in the lower levels.

Most discussion on HF Boards is (only) of the top level.
No, Brazil does not participate in the lower levels.

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