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02-04-2013, 10:28 PM
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Complete this trade:

TO PHI: Phil Kessel + Dion Phaneuf

TO TOR: ____________________

Gives Philly their top line sniper to play with Giroux as well as a big #1 defender that they lack. Lots of salary going to Philly so get creative.

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02-04-2013, 10:30 PM
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Bryzgalov + Couturier + 1st?

No idea.

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02-04-2013, 10:32 PM
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Bryzgalov + Couturier + 1st?

No idea.
Wouldn't do that at all from a leafs POV. They could get more

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02-04-2013, 10:36 PM
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So you want us to take on over 11 million in salary? This won't happen.

With the pieces we'd have to give up to make this trade it just wouldn't be worth it. Our prospect pool is empty, we have nothing. So we'd have to give up roster players and once we start doing that the gain we'd get with these two players wouldn't be worth it anymore.

Our team this year is just not that good. We need a few years for our young players to develop, we shouldn't be trading them away for a 'quick fix' like this.


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Bryzgalov + Couturier + 1st?

No idea.
Bryz has been our best player this year. Leighton would be our starter. No thanks.

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02-04-2013, 10:39 PM
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Couturier, Voracek, Read, Laughton, 1st /13
Briere /Shelley for cap purposes..
It would take quite the overpayment.

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02-04-2013, 10:40 PM
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Couturier, Voracek, Read, Laughton, 1st /13
Briere /Shelley for cap purposes..
It would take quite the overpayment.
It probably would take something like this, well a bit less from Philly, but at this point it isn't even worth it. Our team would have no depth and even less prospects then we have now.

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02-04-2013, 10:41 PM
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Nope. Much rather the Flyers refrain from making any trades and wait out the season and see where things go.

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02-04-2013, 10:48 PM
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For the Schenn's, Couturier and a salary dump.. Deal and no takes backs please and thanks

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Honestly, nothing against the Leafs as they have some nice young talent but I really would not want either Kessel or Phaneuf at this point.....if Phaneuf could ever return to his play his first few years as a Flame, well then I would be interested....

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A lot of youth and the Flyers are not going to give that up.

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Don't see why the Flyers would be after Kessel, but I could see them being in on Phaneuf if he was available. I imagine any deal would start with Couturier.

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Wouldn't mind the Pens picking up Kessel. But I think the asking price would be way too steep.

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02-05-2013, 07:55 AM
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Couturier, Voracek, Read, Laughton, 1st /13
Briere /Shelley for cap purposes..
It would take quite the overpayment.
Philly will not trade you the equivalent of 5 first rounders for those 2. AND then throw in Briere. Shelley is Garbage.

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02-05-2013, 07:56 AM
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Complete this trade:

TO PHI: Phil Kessel + Dion Phaneuf

TO TOR: ____________________

Gives Philly their top line sniper to play with Giroux as well as a big #1 defender that they lack. Lots of salary going to Philly so get creative.
Get a grip. This is ridiculous.

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Get a grip. This is ridiculous.
This. When was the last time a team traded its two "star" players in a single trade to a single team? It just doesn't happen.

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02-05-2013, 08:02 AM
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This. When was the last time a team traded its two "star" players in a single trade to a single team? It just doesn't happen.
no kidding! Briere and Couts can get more in seperate deals.

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02-05-2013, 08:03 AM
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I would want Couturier, Simmonds, Grossman and a 1st.

Obviously there would have to be some kind of cap dump involved also.

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Truth is, Philly has lots of young guys. Giroux, Simmonds, Voracek, Couts, Schenn, Read...all under 26. They are too young to win now. Let the youth grow older. Only big trade I do is for a #1 D-man. And it is not Dion that I target.

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02-05-2013, 08:13 AM
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This should probably be a 'Value of ______________ to the Flyers' thread, not a proposal.

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02-05-2013, 08:44 AM
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Philly will not trade you the equivalent of 5 first rounders for those 2. AND then throw in Briere. Shelley is Garbage.
Lol...

Toronto will not trade its two star players for garbage either. You have to give to get.

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02-05-2013, 09:53 AM
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Lol...

Toronto will not trade its two star players for garbage either. You have to give to get.
...but we don't want them. This team is young, we'd rather build through the draft.

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Lol...

Toronto will not trade its two star players for garbage either. You have to give to get.
I didn't say garbage. I said Philly won't trade the equivalent of 5 1st rounders for Phil and Dion. And then also throw in Briere who if he ever waived his NMC, would fetch a late 1st himself. So that is actually like 6 1st rounders. Not gonna happen.

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...but we don't want them. This team is young, we'd rather build through the draft.
YOU don't want them. Big difference. I'm sure if Holmgren could get his hands on Phaneuf he would be all over it. Kessel, I don't really see the need for the flyers.

But the trade I proposed is fair IMO, leaves Phillys core alone, except Couts, gives them a 25+min a night D, and a 30 goal sniper. Could push them over the edge, I really don't think you guys need to build through the draft just because a ****** start to the season,you have a bunch of youth that are already producing. Although I don't get around to watch the flyers a lot so I could be wrong.

I can't really blame you guys for not being too keen on trading for a 12 million dollar pair that has something llike 5 points and a -9 though.

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02-05-2013, 10:35 AM
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I didn't say garbage. I said Philly won't trade the equivalent of 5 1st rounders for Phil and Dion. And then also throw in Briere who if he ever waived his NMC, would fetch a late 1st himself. So that is actually like 6 1st rounders. Not gonna happen.
Well that's what it'd take.

Couts, Voracek FOR Kessel

Read, Laughton, 1st FOR Phaneuf

I'd say its close to fair value, even as a leaf fan I'm a little hesitant on pulling the trigger. It also doesn't need to be Briere. Just some salary.

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