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I don't know much about Ryan O'Byrne and how he is received in Colorado but I like his game and I think he could bring what the pens need on D right now if they want to move Despres for a winger at the deadline. Again, I really don't know anything about his value but with all of Colorado's injuries, they surely have some holes in the top 6.
A tweener guy like Kennedy or Tangradi could be useful in a temporary top 6 role and could be moved down once they get healthy.
"These guys aren't good enough to play in our top 6 despite the fact that we have been looking for top 6 wingers years. They should be good enough for you though."
I don't think the value is actually that bad, I just laughed at the idea of selling Kennedy and especially Tangradi as top 6 players.
Edit: thought it was Tangradi + 2nd. Its not as close as with a 3rd.
"These guys aren't good enough to play in our top 6 despite the fact that we have been looking for top 6 wingers years. They should be good enough for you though."
I don't think the value is actually that bad, I just laughed at the idea of selling Kennedy and especially Tangradi as top 6 players.
I specifically crowned them as top 6 fill ins and 3rd liners for a reason haha.
I mean Kennedy has scored 20+ each of the last 2 years and Tangradi is really no different then Palushaj, who they likely acquired for the same purpose
I would probably do either one of those trades. It doesn't matter if Kennedy/Tangradi is terrible, just getting O'Byrne out of the line up makes the trade worth it. He can't skate, can't shoot, can't pass, can't handle the puck, and he isn't very physical even though he is 6'5" and 230+ lbs. He is decent at blocking shots though.
I would probably do either one of those trades. It doesn't matter if Kennedy/Tangradi is terrible, just getting O'Byrne out of the line up makes the trade worth it. He can't skate, can't shoot, can't pass, can't handle the puck, and he isn't very physical even though he is 6'5" and 230+ lbs. He is decent at blocking shots though.
Stop. ROB's been bad this year, and doesn't understand that he stick isn't just for smacking the puck away from players and corralling them, but he was a good defensive defensemen last year, and once he shakes of the rust he should be this year.
Meh, Avs have no room for Kennedy when healthy. Which is almost never. But I like ROB still and think he can be a long term solution for us when used appropriately. I'd only say yes if I didn't plan on keeping him around, personally I would keep ROB.
And another Avs fan who would do the Kennedy deal. Actually a decent trade for both teams.
Obyrne has been weak so far this year, but once he shaked off the new season jitters he'll be a solid Defensive guy again.
Kennedy would be nice though, could potentially be a decent 3C replacement if he who shall not be named continues his Russian ways. Although Mitchell is filling in quite well in the 3C role right now.
As for Tangradi, wouldn't do it if it was a 3rd, but a 2nd is a lot closer. I would probably pull the trigger on Tangradi + 2nd.
Meh, I am not invested in this. I don´t want any more D that isn´t a top4 upgrade, so wouldn´t want to trade for O'Byrne at all. It`s probably fair, if unneccessary, though.
And another Avs fan who would do the Kennedy deal. Actually a decent trade for both teams.
Obyrne has been weak so far this year, but once he shaked off the new season jitters he'll be a solid Defensive guy again.
Kennedy would be nice though, could potentially be a decent 3C replacement if he who shall not be named continues his Russian ways. Although Mitchell is filling in quite well in the 3C role right now.
As for Tangradi, wouldn't do it if it was a 3rd, but a 2nd is a lot closer. I would probably pull the trigger on Tangradi + 2nd.
Tangradi is no more useful than Kevin Porter, but yeah if someone offered a 2nd for O'byrne the Avs would obviously take it.
The whole defense (including Despres and Bortuzzo) is playing great, and that's even with Niskanen on the sidelines. When he comes back, our defense will be sitting a quality defenseman.
I don't know much about Ryan O'Byrne and how he is received in Colorado but I like his game and I think he could bring what the pens need on D right now if they want to move Despres for a winger at the deadline. Again, I really don't know anything about his value but with all of Colorado's injuries, they surely have some holes in the top 6.
A tweener guy like Kennedy or Tangradi could be useful in a temporary top 6 role and could be moved down once they get healthy.
If we trade Kennedy, it should be part of a package (i.e. + Matta + a pick/prospect) to acquire a legit top-6 winger.
The last thing we need in Pitts is another Dman. We do need an upgrade on the wing, however; and while I do not want to trade Kennedy for another 3rd line winger (which would be a lateral move at best), I would happily trade him as part of a larger deal for an upgrade in the top-6.
Meh, Avs have no room for Kennedy when healthy. Which is almost never. But I like ROB still and think he can be a long term solution for us when used appropriately. I'd only say yes if I didn't plan on keeping him around, personally I would keep ROB.
Yeah people are a little quick to sour on a player, ROB has had his ups and downs but if he was ACTUALLY used as a bottom pair shutdown guy for us instead of a top 4 defender then he would be great. O'Byrne is good enough to fill in as a top 4 but that shouldn't be his role.
And yes he really needs to shake off that rust, watching him throw the puck into the stands made it really hard for me not to question my loyalty to him as a guy I want to keep around. But hes been good for us since we got him, he should of been skating and not 'coaching' during the lockout.
The whole defense (including Despres and Bortuzzo) is playing great, and that's even with Niskanen on the sidelines. When he comes back, our defense will be sitting a quality defenseman.
agreed. I just figured later in the year if we need to acquire a winger, having an extra D-man with experience could be helpful. This isn't one of those trade that I think the pens NEED to do now or ever but if we wanted to make a move later on. Having another established D-man could be helpful. I know we'll be sitting a quality defenseman when Nisky gets back but we'll be in a trouble if we have to move one of them later on.
EDIT: Also didn't know many avs fans had such a low opinion of O'Byrne. Maybe he's not the guy to target but I figure a trade like this might happen at some point during the year
agreed. I just figured later in the year if we need to acquire a winger, having an extra D-man with experience could be helpful. This isn't one of those trade that I think the pens NEED to do now or ever but if we wanted to make a move later on. Having another established D-man could be helpful. I know we'll be sitting a quality defenseman when Nisky gets back but we'll be in a trouble if we have to move one of them later on.
EDIT: Also didn't know many avs fans had such a low opinion of O'Byrne. Maybe he's not the guy to target but I figure a trade like this might happen at some point during the year
He was solid for us last year, probably one of our most consistent defenders after EJ.
This year... i'd trade him for a 7th if we didn't have all these injuries. However, he's helping us draft Jones so I can live with his boneheaded mistakes.
agreed. I just figured later in the year if we need to acquire a winger, having an extra D-man with experience could be helpful. This isn't one of those trade that I think the pens NEED to do now or ever but if we wanted to make a move later on. Having another established D-man could be helpful. I know we'll be sitting a quality defenseman when Nisky gets back but we'll be in a trouble if we have to move one of them later on.
