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PIT - TOR - FLA (pretty big deal)

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02-06-2013, 11:34 PM
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PIT - TOR - FLA (pretty big deal)

Re-proposal in Post #48


Stephen Weiss
PIT 1st 2013


Brian Dumoulin
Nazem Kadri or Tyler Bozak
Carter Ashton
TOR 2nd 2013


Nikolai Kulemin


Panthers get something for nothing as Weiss is bound to walk this offseason anyway
Leafs get 1C and Weiss goes home (Burke would've done it! )


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What is this? I wouldn't trade Kadri alone for that

And please don't tell me that's Kulemin in the Russian writing ...

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What is this? I wouldn't trade Kadri alone for that

And please don't tell me that's Kulemin in the Russian writing ...
Look at his sig. I think he's already got it all worked out.

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I just got a heart attack seeing the CBC hot stove title.

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Kadri, Kulemin, Ashton, 2nd for Weiss and a 1st?


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wow, great proposal.

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Can't seem to read that last name there

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so Leafs would trade Kadri/Bozak, Ashton, and a 2nd for PIT's 1st and Stephen Weiss. Florida trades Weiss for Kadri/Bozak, Ashton, Dumoulin, and a 2nd. Pittsburgh trades 1st and Dumoulin for Kulemin.

after that 20+ page thread, i think it's safe to say that Leafs fans wouldn't even trade Kulemin for PIT's 1st and someone like Despres, let alone a 1st and Dumoulin. now they'd trade Kadri/Bozak, Ashton, and their 2nd for Weiss?

cue the angry Leafs fans... wait, they're already here. i'm late to the party.

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Is this a proposal, rumor or idea being tossed around?

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weiss man say "gimme gum gum, dum dum"

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so Leafs would trade Kadri/Bozak, Ashton, and a 2nd for PIT's 1st and Stephen Weiss. Florida trades Weiss for Kadri/Bozak, Ashton, Dumoulin, and a 2nd. Pittsburgh trades 1st and Dumoulin for Kulemin.

after that 20+ page thread, i think it's safe to say that Leafs fans wouldn't even trade Kulemin for PIT's 1st and someone like Despres, let alone a 1st and Dumoulin. now they'd trade Kadri/Bozak, Ashton, and their 2nd for Weiss?

cue the angry Leafs fans... wait, they're already here. i'm late to the party.
We are a adamant bunch aren't we?

The fans can stick to their guns all they want (on either side) in the end the GM does the talking.

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CBC Hot Stove...?

PS this is a good deal for the Leafs... actually seems like a fair deal from all sides to me. I doubt the Leafs fans will agree, but it's definitely fair and gives them a 1C... AND a first round pick.

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Fixed a few of the....*ahem*....issues, with this thread.

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It seems like a proposal.

Honestly, Toronto is getting the best player and the highest pick in this deal. The fact that some Leafs fans are laughing at that is...I don't even know.

If anything, the only team that shouldn't do this deal is Florida, because they're getting a bunch of futures for one of their top centers, and Dale Tallon is trying to get Florida to win now, not rebuild..

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It seems like a proposal.

Honestly, Toronto is getting the best player and the highest pick in this deal. The fact that some Leafs fans are laughing at that is...I don't even know.

If anything, the only team that shouldn't do this deal is Florida, because they're getting a bunch of futures for one of their top centers, and Dale Tallon is trying to get Florida to win now, not rebuild..
Actually, we still are in rebuild mode. Making the playoffs last season was a pleasant surprise, but our rebuild is almost complete when Markstrom, Bjugstad and Petrovic are regulars in our lineup (to go with Huberdeau and Shore).

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I don't ever plan for Leafs fans to agree with anything

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It seems like a proposal.

Honestly, Toronto is getting the best player and the highest pick in this deal. The fact that some Leafs fans are laughing at that is...I don't even know.

If anything, the only team that shouldn't do this deal is Florida, because they're getting a bunch of futures for one of their top centers, and Dale Tallon is trying to get Florida to win now, not rebuild..

We move from lets say 35th overall to 25th-30th overall - 10 spots max - big deal? no.

Kadri + Kulemin + Ashton + (minus 10spots)
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Weiss + (plus 10spots)


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Actually, we still are in rebuild mode. Making the playoffs last season was a pleasant surprise, but our rebuild is almost complete when Markstrom, Bjugstad and Petrovic are regulars in our lineup.
Oh, well I stand corrected.

I figured the playoff appearance and the additions of Huberdeau, Kovalev, Mueller, etc. to the Panthers lineup was telling that they want to win now (obviously every team wants to win now) I just didn't think they would still be in a rebuild.

Still, if Florida were to trade Weise, they would be smart to trade him for quality instead of quantity, like in the proposal above.

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We move from lets say 35th overall to 25th-30th overall - 10 spots max - big deal? no.

Kadri + Kulemin + Ashton + (minus 10spots)
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Weiss + (plus 10spots)


Dream on
Still, the Leafs would be getting the best player and the best pick in the trade. Weise is better than Kadri, Kulemin, Ashton and Pittsburgh's 1st is better than the Leafs 2nd.

Nobody said you had to like the proposal, I just think it's funny that some of you Leafs fans think you're getting ripped off when you guys win this deal.

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Still, the Leafs would be getting the best player and the best pick in the trade. Weise is better than Kadri, Kulemin, Ashton and Pittsburgh's 1st is better than the Leafs 2nd.

Nobody said you had to like the proposal, I just think it's funny that some of you Leafs fans think you're getting ripped off when you guys win this deal.
they do actually win this deal, but i think the names Kadri and Kulemin set off an alarm in their heads to challenge the trade proposal.

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Oh, well I stand corrected.

I figured the playoff appearance and the additions of Huberdeau, Kovalev, Mueller, etc. to the Panthers lineup was telling that they want to win now (obviously every team wants to win now) I just didn't think they would still be in a rebuild.

Still, if Florida were to trade Weise, they would be smart to trade him for quality instead of quantity, like in the proposal above.
Definitely still in the rebuilding process, I say another 1-3 years until we are in a WIN mode, if any success happens in the playoffs I say it's just luck for us this year. That is if we make it to the playoffs. I say we are sellers this deadline, and pick up some UFA's again on July 1st.

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Still, the Leafs would be getting the best player and the best pick in the trade. Weise is better than Kadri, Kulemin, Ashton and Pittsburgh's 1st is better than the Leafs 2nd.

Nobody said you had to like the proposal, I just think it's funny that some of you Leafs fans think you're getting ripped off when you guys win this deal.
I understand what you are saying. But the deal is lopsided.

Weiss is not better than Kadri AND Kulemin. (Both are coveted more on this team) Not to mention he is a UFA to be.

Ashton + 35th for 30th - can be a separate deal all together.

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Florida doesn't want any of Toronto's crap, no matter how much of it you want to give us.

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Florida doesn't want any of Toronto's crap, no matter how much of it you want to give us.
And we don't want Weiss who will not be an improvement on our team thank you very much. Horrible deal for the leafs.

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