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02-07-2013, 01:19 PM
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Yes. But I am not a newfie so I don't get it. Maybe someone else also PMd you? Like an actual newfie?
It was me. I'm a Newfie.

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02-07-2013, 01:25 PM
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Do not skip my pick if someone makes a joke pos from a list that was given over 24 hrs ago! Imagine if i hadn't came here to make my pick!
Probably my bad Leaf, all I had from you last night was when you said that you wanted Schriner or Denneny, and both had gone. After you picked LeClair I had no idea who you planned to select next.

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02-07-2013, 01:27 PM
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He was arguably the best defenseman available for an entire round. I think he was a little better than Bill White but didn't want a slow skater to have to cover for Coffey.
I came very close to selecting another defenseman who does not usually go around this area of the draft. In the end, Stanley's stats and voting finishes are far more impressive.

Although I'm not really sure what to make of a defensive corps that is started with three fairly similar, LHS defensemen.

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02-07-2013, 01:31 PM
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I came very close to selecting another defenseman who does not usually go around this area of the draft. In the end, Stanley's stats and voting finishes are far more impressive.

Although I'm not really sure what to make of a defensive corps that is started with three fairly similar, LHS defensemen.
Yeah, Bill White's right handedness was a factor in me selecting him.

I'm not sure anyone actually looks at the handedness of defensemen when they vote, but I still like having some righties on my team.

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02-07-2013, 01:37 PM
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Yeah, Bill White's right handedness was a factor in me selecting him.

I'm not sure anyone actually looks at the handedness of defensemen when they vote, but I still like having some righties on my team.
It's not an issue on the PP where Geoffrion can QB it, he's also right-handed.

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02-07-2013, 01:39 PM
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It's not an issue on the PP where Geoffrion can QB it, he's also right-handed.
I think if you have defensemen who are great at handling the puck, they can pretty easily play either side at even strength (Bobby Orr was famously a LH shot who played the right side). But on both special teams, it helps a lot to have a balance - helps to clear the zone on the PK and gives you more options for attack on the PP.

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02-07-2013, 01:42 PM
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Mats Sundin looks a little less out of place here than in the Top-100, heh?

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I think if you have defensemen who are great at handling the puck, they can pretty easily play either side at even strength (Bobby Orr was famously a LH shot who played the right side). But on both special teams, it helps a lot to have a balance - helps to clear the zone on the PK and gives you more options for attack on the PP.
Yeah, thankfully all of our defensemen are adept puck-handlers so I probably don't have much to worry about. I'll just have to try and get some RHS for the remaining holes on each unit.

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Brian Denahay.

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02-07-2013, 02:22 PM
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Just so everyone knows, we have been on an 8 hour clock since the start of round 7.

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Pittsburgh will take D, Pat Stapleton


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Stapleton was voted to the NHL Second All-Star Team in 1966 and duplicated this honor in 1971 and 1972. He played with the Hawks until the end of the 1972-73 season and helped the squad reach the Stanley Cup finals in 1971 and 1973. His quick hands and lightning reflexes, combined with a hard, accurate shot, made him one of the more effective point men in the NHL. Defensively, he was a master of the poke-check and was able to consistently steer opponents away from the goal.

Stapleton and defense partner Bill White developed into one of the NHL's elite tandems. They were the key to the Hawks winning four straight West Division crowns, and in the 1972 Summit Series against the USSR they were teamed in seven of the eight games. Stapleton was on the ice when Paul Henderson scored the dramatic series-winning goal with 34 seconds left in the third period.

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02-07-2013, 03:59 PM
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Can somebody take a very short list?

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02-07-2013, 04:01 PM
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Can somebody take a very short list?
Send it this way.

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Can somebody take a very short list?
Yep. I'll be around all night.

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I'm leaving to run some errands for an hour, but after that I'll be around all night

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Thanks. Sent to both of you.

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Ditto except I sent it to fellow Hawk's fan Hawkey Town also.

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Kind of slow here...

Got a blizzard supposed to be coming in on the early am tomorrow and dropping on us two feet through Saturday afternoon, so I'll be around for a while.

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02-07-2013, 07:16 PM
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Hershey drafts HHOF left winger Fred "Bun" Cook, who was a fan favorite for his innovation, hard work and consistent production. For eight consecutive NHL seasons he was top-10 in goals or assists. The nickname "Bun" comes from the shape of his nose, swears his wife, but journalists in NY described him as "quick as a bunny" and the interpretation stuck. His hard-nosed and fast style of play graced Madison Square Gardens for nearly a decade, Bun ranking 29th in 100 Ranger Greats.



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"While Bill was known as the goal scorer and Boucher the playmaker, Bun was known as a bit of both. Many claim it was Bun who innovated the drop pass in the offensive zone. Some even suggest it was Cook who invented the slap shot.

A solid offensive contributor, Bun was a fan favorite in the old Madison Square Garden because of his hustling speed and reckless physical play. He was a bit of a celebrity, drawing praise from the likes of Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig and Ed Sullivan.

"When Bun Cook is hot, he is one of the most amazing players in hockey," wrote Sullivan. "At such moments, he attempts plays that stagger the imagination. At his peak, there is no player so enjoyable to watch."
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Bun was less dangerous around the net than Bill, but he was no less determined, and his work ethic and ability to carve out a niche of his own despite being the brother of a hockey legend earned him respect throughout the league. He was a fan favorite at Madison Square Garden because of his dedication...
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...safety-valve trailer and defensive specialist...men who would know credit Bunny Cook with the introduction of the passing attack.
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... a defensive specialist who could skate shoot and score
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"Men who would know credit Bunny Cook with the introduction of the passing attack," wrote Frank Selke. "The Cook-Boucher line introduced a style of attack completely their own each member kept working into an open spot, passing the puck carefully and adequately and frequently pushing the puck into the open net after confusing the defensive force of the opposition. This was a repetition of lacrosse as played by the great Indian teams."

Bun is also credited with being the innovator of the drop pass. "I had a dream about the drop pass one night and at our next practice, I told Frank and Bill about it," explained Bun. "They thought I was crazy, but they decided to humour me. By gosh, it worked! I'd cross over from left wing to centre as I moved in on defense. I'd fake a shot and leave the puck behind and skate away from it, with Frank or Bill picking it up. We got a lot of goals off the crisscross and drop pass."

Bun was always tinkering with elements of the game. He was an early proponent of the slapshot, and occasionally took a rolling puck up on the blade of his stick and carried it through the bewildered opposing team.

"When Bun Cook is hot, he is one of the most amazing players in hockey," wrote Ed Sullivan (yes, the same one) in the New York Graphic. "At such moments, he attempts plays that stagger the imagination. At his peak, there is no player so enjoyable to watch." In his rookie season, Bun Cook was named to the NHL's Second All-Star Team in 1926-27. The New York Rangers, playing an exciting and successful brand of hockey, became the toast of the town in New York. "Babe Ruth would be there. For some reason, Lou Gehrig took a liking to me. I never did get to see them (the Yankees) play although Bill went to see them," stated Bun.

Bun Cook was named to the Second All-Star Team again in 1930-31. Although overshadowed by the exploits of his linemates, Bun Cook proved to be every much their hockey peer. During the ten seasons he played with the Rangers (1926 to 1936), Bun outscored Frank Boucher (154 to 141) and earned more assists than his brother Bill (139 to 138).

Then, a throat infection and arthritic condition forced Bun out of the Rangers line-up during the 1935-36 season.
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After two years out west in Saskatoon, Bun Cook was a Blueshirt for a decade, with eight straight seasons of significant production:

1926-1927, 6th in NHL assists + NHL 2nd team all-star selection
1927-1928, 2nd in NHL assists + The Stanley Cup
1928-1929, 10th in NHL goals
1929-1930, 10th in NHL goals
1930-1931, 7th in NHL assists + NHL 2nd team all-star selection
1931-1932, 9th in NHL assists + Cup Finals leading 6 goals
1932-1933, 4th in NHL goals + The Stanley Cup
1933-1934, 10th in NHL goals

Note: his best season for goals and for assists were cup-winning seasons.

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02-07-2013, 07:21 PM
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tony d and stoneberg have lists for the next two picks...they have been PM'd

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02-07-2013, 07:26 PM
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Tony D is here and I have the next 2 picks:

With Pick 200 HC Donbass (DoMakc) selects Right Winger Vladimir Martinec

With Pick 201 the Edmonton Mercurys (gmm and Murphy) select Defenseman Eric Desjardins:

gmm also asked me to post this:

Desjardin's All-Star Finishes: 4, 4, 5, 9, 10, 11

Hobnobs has been notified that he's up.

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02-07-2013, 07:39 PM
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I always thought Desjardins was awesome as a little kid in the 90's, and he was rated 92 overall in my first hockey game ever NHL 2000!


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02-07-2013, 07:49 PM
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I would take Desjardins over Zubov as an overall hockey player. I understand that Zubov has a more specialized role and probably a rarer skillset though.

Martinec is a great pick too.

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I still wonder if you ever saw Zubov play in Dallas...

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