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Ward is signed till 2016 at 6.3 Million per season, Won a Stanley Cup with the 'canes in 2006 but not much recent sucess since and is off to a terrible start in 2013. I've always been a huge Ward fan, what would Carolina want in return?
I share your love for Ward, but would answer St. Louis without hesitation to the question "for which team does trading for a 6.3M goalie make the least sense?"
The question is: If ward was an UFA right now, does any team would give him a 6 300 000$ X 4 years contract?
if your answer is no, then Ward would clear the waiver.
On the off chance that this was directed at my comment, which it probably was not (I know): I was not implying that it was a buyout-horrid contract. Actually I think the Ward and Staal contracts make a lot of sense for Carolina and expect they are still happy with them regardless of how much flack they get here.
St. Louis likes to do things on a budget though and currently has an outstanding goalie team that earns less than Ward combined. No reason for a move there.
I share your love for Ward, but would answer St. Louis without hesitation to the question "for which team does trading for a 6.3M goalie make the least sense?"
going the other way would be Halak, makes 3.7 Million per season and is a UFA in 2014, so that's 2.6 million added to a budget franchise. Carolia would have to pick up some of Ward's contract.
On the off chance that this was directed at my comment, which it probably was not (I know): I was not implying that it was a buyout-horrid contract. Actually I think the Ward and Staal contracts make a lot of sense for Carolina and expect they are still happy with them regardless of how much flack they get here.
St. Louis likes to do things on a budget though and currently has an outstanding goalie team that earns less than Ward combined. No reason for a move there.
This is my reasoning : Halak is Injured again, and in my opinion is getting a rap of being Injury Prone.
going the other way would be Halak, makes 3.7 Million per season and is a UFA in 2014, so that's 2.6 million added to a budget franchise. Carolia would have to pick up some of Ward's contract.
Interesting suggestion.
any teams interested in Ward at 3.200.000 $ x 4 years?
I share your love for Ward, but would answer St. Louis without hesitation to the question "for which team does trading for a 6.3M goalie make the least sense?"
going the other way would be Halak, makes 3.7 Million per season and is a UFA in 2014, so that's 2.6 million added to a budget franchise. Carolia would have to pick up some of Ward's contract.
The Canes don't want to trade Ward so they wont be picking up any of his contract. Really Ward is worth more to the Canes then he is on the trade market. On the market he is currently over paid but I am sure the Canes are happy with the contract.
Honest question directed at the OP: Is the notion in St. Louis right now that the goaltending hasn't been good enough? If so, strange when the tandem of Halak and Elliott aren't far removed from a record setting, Jennings-winning season last year.
Honest question directed at the OP: Is the notion in St. Louis right now that the goaltending hasn't been good enough? If so, strange when the tandem of Halak and Elliott aren't far removed from a record setting, Jennings-winning season last year.
Halak is Injured, is "Supposed" to return Friday. Elliott has been just ok so far in 2013.
Honest question directed at the OP: Is the notion in St. Louis right now that the goaltending hasn't been good enough? If so, strange when the tandem of Halak and Elliott aren't far removed from a record setting, Jennings-winning season last year.
The OP thinks Halak is injury prone as he is out with a groin strain. They haven't been as good as last season but it's early in the season. Neither has been great or bad IMO. They are most likely a little rusty with no training camp and still need to get into form as I am sure a lot of goalies need to currently.
Most Blues fans are still pretty happy with our goaltending pair.
This is my reasoning : Halak is Injured again, and in my opinion is getting a rap of being Injury Prone.
He is only missing 2 games, lets settle down. And last year in the playoffs he got trucked by his own dman, I think its early to say he is injury prone. It just doesnt make sense for the Blues to trade for a goalie, and Im a huge Ward fan as well. Our guys just won the jennings last year, we are 8 games into the season. Lets see what they can do.
Carolina has no interest in trading Ward. He's not had the greatest start, but the fact of the matter is, we've got no one else in the system behind him.
Carolina has no interest in trading Ward. He's not had the greatest start, but the fact of the matter is, we've got no one else in the system behind him.
So it makes more sense for a team with 800k in cap space, 9.3 mil of which are spent on goaltending, as well as several solid goalie prospects to acquire a 6.3 million dollar goalie(who is arguably inferior to both our current goalies) than it is for a team with 17 million in cap space, with less than 4 mil spent on goaltending(even if you have Lehner)?
So it makes more sense for a team with 800k in cap space, 9.3 mil of which are spent on goaltending, as well as several solid goalie prospects to acquire a 6.3 million dollar goalie(who is arguably inferior to both our current goalies) than it is for a team with 17 million in cap space, with less than 4 mil spent on goaltending(even if you have Lehner)?
Even before the 41 save game, Canes had no interest whatsoever in trading Cam Ward. If there was ever a situation that they would have ever traded him, it would have been in order to get a 1st/2nd overall pick to a goalie-needy team (Columbus or Edmonton came to mind last season). But now? Definitely no.
going the other way would be Halak, makes 3.7 Million per season and is a UFA in 2014, so that's 2.6 million added to a budget franchise. Carolia would have to pick up some of Ward's contract.
This is one of the silliest things I've ever read on HF I think. Not only are we not looking to trade Cam Ward, but we certainly don't want to get rid of him so bad that we would pay you to take him.
