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02-06-2013, 01:25 PM
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02-06-2013, 01:26 PM
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The GM will get the can before Oates does

They need to stick with something for a bit so unless ownership is unhappy with Oates (I don't see why they would be, he's been fine), if they want the franchise to keep it's lustre then removing the head coach yet again would not be the way to go

The real problem is Ovechkin: the KHL is no pushover league but it doesn't compare to the NHL in terms of aggressivness and the goalies are awful in KHL compared to the NHL. He was happy with the way things were going in the KHL and now that he's back he has to deal with the fact that everybody in the NHL has figured him out; he does not look up t the challenge of reinventing himself
Not sure if you've been paying attention to the Washington NBA franchise that Leonsis now owns as well, but they have one of the worst GMs is all of sport, not just the NBA, and he hasn't been fired. So I have no expectation at all that McPhee will go. But he sure needs to, his record is abysmal. I just hope they don't attempt any major trade until they make a GM change through, because if this current regime does it, it's guaranteed to be a disaster.

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02-06-2013, 01:26 PM
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McPhee should of been fired when he let Semin go and couldn't bring Kuznetsov over. He singlehandedly ruined the most exciting offensive team and turned it into a boring skillless team

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02-06-2013, 01:28 PM
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A coach has a shelf life until he can sustain the success. Firing BB was the right move for Washington because he had lost the dressing room. When your best player can call you a ' Fat **** ', then you can wonder how much respect he had among players.

They need a change in leadership and I think Brian Burke will be the right guy for you. He's a good leader to have up top and does better with established teams than teams trying to rebuild. He has a good core to work with in Washington.

I don't think he'll be bringing Ron Wilson back either. I think Marc Crawford will come alongside Burke and that might be way better than what Washington has right now.
Sums up the enabling culture to a T. Coach sits a player for not performing, coach gets fired. Coach tries to get team to play an all around game, player pouts, coach gets fired.

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02-06-2013, 01:32 PM
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McPhee should of been fired when he let Semin go and couldn't bring Kuznetsov over. He singlehandedly ruined the most exciting offensive team and turned it into a boring skillless team
Actually waaaaay before that even.

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02-06-2013, 01:36 PM
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I was agreeing with you, brah.

I think Oates' lineup decisions have been absolutely stupid. I mean, it's worse than NHL 13 calibre stuff.

Thinking that Ovechkin will somehow "work harder" or produce more with Jay ****ing Beagle and Joey ****ing Crabb is mindbottling.
did you just say "mindbottling?"

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02-06-2013, 01:39 PM
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Holmgren would have had Ovechkin and Backstrom traded to the other side of the country six months ago.

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02-06-2013, 02:52 PM
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I believe its because of AO.

I think he is a problem in the locker room, i think he is a mental basketcase, i think the team would be better off without him.

But alas, you are STUCK with him, better or for worse.

Caps are going to have a LONG time coming if Alex continues to play bad.

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02-06-2013, 02:58 PM
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I believe its because of AO.

I think he is a problem in the locker room, i think he is a mental basketcase, i think the team would be better off without him.

But alas, you are STUCK with him, better or for worse.

Caps are going to have a LONG time coming if Alex continues to play bad.
I don't think he needs to be gone, he needs the 'C' stripped though before another regime comes in, that way the new guys can pick a fresh captain w/out having to do the dirty work.

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02-06-2013, 03:32 PM
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No one watches Caps games with any sort objectivity. Its bad enough it happens on the Caps board, saying Ovechkin was demoted from PP 1 even though the reality was he and Ribeiro were on the ice for a long shift when the penalty was drawn...

Everyone on the Caps board was blaming Ovechkin. I was blaming Wolski? Guess who gets demoted to the third line for the third? Wolski.

Brouwer and Wolski sucked and drained everything out of the top 2 lines. No one here was asking "Whats wrong with Backstrom," when he was invisible against the Penguins. Its a musical chairs of invisibility throughout the entire lineup and it happens from period to period and game to game.

This team though has one major enemy: They are great at deflecting pucks, into their own net.

Whatever, Caps can lose this year, I don't really care, I'll get mad if they decide to show up late season and win their way out of a 2nd line center. Forsberg-Barkov-Kuznetsov, yes please.

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02-06-2013, 03:44 PM
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McPhee won't be fired, he has Leonsis dancing for him like a puppet.

Ovechkin has morphed from the 1st/2nd best player in the world to a top 6 power forward with speed, if you think he's any more than that go ahead and try to prove it.

Caps will be lucky if they can tank and do a mini rebuild by shipping Ribiero, Ward, and Hamrlik off at the trade deadline. They will never get rid of that dead weight named Schultz, they are going to need to buy him out or bury him in the minors, no GM in the league with half a brain would want him.

Problem is with drafting 1st or 2nd overall (move over Edmonton!) is that they supposedly have a team built to win now with a bunch of Top 5 draft picks on the roster.

Oates wasn't a great choice for coach, but he's not the problem. Watch a Caps game and see how much the team just sucks as a whole. When your hardest working player is Mike Ribiero, something is horribly wrong.

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02-06-2013, 03:50 PM
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Tired of people blaming Ovechkin, please tell me how ONE player can suddenly make the other 20+ players and goalie play badly.

It's not how it works, you haters are getting old.

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02-06-2013, 03:51 PM
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Tired of people blaming Ovechkin, please tell me how ONE player can suddenly make the other 20+ players and goalie play badly.

It's not how it works, you haters are getting old.
He wears the C. Players look to him for leadership, so does coaching staff. He provides none.

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02-06-2013, 03:54 PM
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"The lowly Toronto maple leafs". Was there any reason for that to be in your post at all ? The "lowly maple leafs" are 7th in the east, 14th in the league . Seems pretty average to me

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He wears the C. Players look to him for leadership, so does coaching staff. He provides none.
@ben_clymer: Ovechkin wants to win, but will he figure it out? http://t.co/zdjYsa35 I can tell you w/out question @ovi8 really cares & wants to win

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02-06-2013, 04:03 PM
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He wears the C. Players look to him for leadership, so does coaching staff. He provides none.
So its Ovechkins fault Chimera takes dumb penalties? Brouwer goes right instead of left where Kundratek is telling him to go?

Is it Ovechkins fault Carlson and Alzner sucked to begin the year?

Who the **** knows where this team is if Hendricks doesn't steal the pass to Ovechkin against the Jets and Ovechkin scored and the score was 2-2.

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02-06-2013, 04:08 PM
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He wears the C. Players look to him for leadership, so does coaching staff. He provides none.
you clearly are clueless, just stop

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02-06-2013, 04:23 PM
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@ben_clymer: Ovechkin wants to win, but will he figure it out? http://t.co/zdjYsa35 I can tell you w/out question @ovi8 really cares & wants to win
I'm confused by this. What's there to figure out? How to win? What?

I'd say that a good start would be to be in the best possible shape you can. It's lot to ask, but doable I think. Lots of other NHLers manage to do that.

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"The lowly Toronto maple leafs". Was there any reason for that to be in your post at all ?
Yes, it helped emphasize my point.

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The "lowly maple leafs" are 7th in the east, 14th in the league . Seems pretty average to me
Only because they took 4 points from the caps

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you clearly are clueless, just stop
You think he is a good leader?

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Where is semin? I watched the game against the Penguins and realized he wasn't on the team. Where is he and why?

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did you just say "mindbottling?"
It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure it out

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We all expected Oates to play an up-temp style.

This defensive style which the team can't adapt to under him anyway is being mandated from the Leonsis or McPhee.

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They should have never fired Boudreau.

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