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02-06-2013, 10:16 PM
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Phaneuf is a good defenseman. The problem is Leafs fans will find anything negative they can to **** on a player until he is run out of town. We just can't own nice things in this city, because our fans break them shortly after they arrive.
Go watch Dion's highlights from his days with Calgary and then sum up all the memories you have of Phaneuf from these 3 years and compare.

2 different players.

There are some players who shouldn't be put in leadership roles. Dion is one of them. I think being a C takes away valuable aspects of his game.

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02-06-2013, 10:18 PM
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Colorado getting killed by ANA. When the struggle its good for us. They have a lot of what we need... O'rielly, Duchene or Stastny would all look great in blue and white.

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Hopefully he keeps:

Rielly, Kadri, JvR, Lupol, Phaneuf and Gardiner
and kessel, kule, grabo, mcclement, gunnar and franson?

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Colorado getting killed by ANA. When the struggle its good for us. They have a lot of what we need... O'rielly, Duchene or Stastny would all look great in blue and white.
No need for them to trade away any of them just because they are struggling seeing as they are all young guys and they are trying to build a new team.

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02-06-2013, 10:21 PM
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and kessel, kule, grabo, mcclement, gunnar and franson?
Gunnarsson would be nice to keep. The others, not so sure about.

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02-06-2013, 10:25 PM
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No need for them to trade away any of them just because they are struggling seeing as they are all young guys and they are trying to build a new team.
... they traded a first and a second for Varlamov. That team wants to win in the near future and what they have going on is clearly not working. The have a surplus of centres and a lot of other holes to fill.

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02-06-2013, 10:30 PM
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Gunnarsson would be nice to keep. The others, not so sure about.
I'd add Kuli. The other aspects of the game that he brings are hard to find. Unless the offer for him is one you can't turn down.

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02-06-2013, 10:39 PM
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I'd add Kuli. The other aspects of the game that he brings are hard to find. Unless the offer for him is one you can't turn down.
LOL. I did not see his name there

Of course he should be kept unless there is some one who wants to overpay for him.

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02-06-2013, 10:49 PM
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NJD just got Lokitonov from LAK for a 5th round pick. I wonder if Lou asked about Doughty, Kopitar, or Richards?
I can't believe that we miss that deal. Not saying that Loktionov is a sure thing, but he a gut with very good potential, at the center position, we should have beaten that Devils offer with a 4th round pick. It's a low-risk, potentially high-reward move.

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02-06-2013, 10:58 PM
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I can't believe that we miss that deal. Not saying that Loktionov is a sure thing, but he a gut with very good potential, at the center position, we should have beaten that Devils offer with a 4th round pick. It's a low-risk, potentially high-reward move.
Don't think he fits our franchise's idea of moving forward, and we don't exactly have an area where we can fit him in. I mean we already looking to move others to get our young guys a chance.

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02-06-2013, 11:08 PM
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I also look forward to Kessel being traded, with VanRiemsdyk, Frattin, Kulemin, Lupul, etc.. our depth at Wing is strongest.

I'd like to see

To Vancouver: Kessel

To Toronto: Kassian + Schneider

To West team that needs a D:

To Toronto: 1st rnd pick

Lupul Kadri Frattin
Vanriemsdyk Grabovski Kassian
Kulemin McClement Komarov
Brown Steckel Orr

Phaneuf Gunnarsson
Gardiner Komisarek\Franson\Frazer
Liles Holzer

Schneider\Reimer

This team Vs Boston would be an absolute blood bath. It would be a very similar team too, not a elite talent like Kessel on the roster, but a good overall balanced meat and potatoes roster. Would give this team an instant identity, instead of a mix of talented coasters, and hard working players... to a team that relies on it's speed toughness to win.

Future:

Lupul Kadri Frattin
VanRiemsdyk Grabovski Kassian
Kulemin McClement Komarov
Brown Steckel Orr

Gunnarsson Phaneuf
Gardiner Holzer\Liles
Rielly -----

Schneider\Reimer


Question would be, is Kassian\Schneider too much to ask for?

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We're not getting Kassian for Kessel. We need a better forward then that.

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We're not getting Kassian for Kessel. We need a better forward then that.
It's funny, if Hodgson were still there, he'd be an interesting choice.

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It's funny, if Hodgson were still there, he'd be an interesting choice.
Maybe. What do you guys think of moving Grabovski + for Backstrom from Washington? Not sure else they need but maybe Grabovski + Kulemin for Backstrom Ward?

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Maybe. What do you guys think of moving Grabovski + for Backstrom from Washington? Not sure else they need but maybe Grabovski + Kulemin for Backstrom Ward?
If you want Backstrom be prepared to part with Grabovski and a 1st round pick ++

You are not even close on that proposal.

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02-06-2013, 11:27 PM
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every 10 mins a new kessel proposal is gonna pop up lol...

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every 10 mins a new kessel proposal is gonna pop up lol...
and they haven't already?

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Maybe. What do you guys think of moving Grabovski + for Backstrom from Washington? Not sure else they need but maybe Grabovski + Kulemin for Backstrom Ward?
Grabovski + Gunnarson + 1st 2014 for Backstrom?

I'd want to keep Kuli, then role a top six of:

Lupol-Backstrom-Kessel
JvR-Kadri-Kuli

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Grabovski + Gunnarson + 1st 2014 for Backstrom?

I'd want to keep Kuli, then role a top six of:

Lupol-Backstrom-Kessel
JvR-Kadri-Kuli
I don't think that gets you Backstrom, but I'd do it.

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I don't think that gets you Backstrom, but I'd do it.
Lol i know but it was hard to think of a deal around Grabo that would let us keep Kuli and his defensive game (tbh if we get Backstrom, we are looking a lot more like a playoff team and keeping Kuli would ensure our top six stays solid).

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Skinner+1st 2013 for Kessel is the kind of return I'd like for him

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Skinner+1st 2013 for Kessel is the kind of return I'd like for him
I swear these proposals get funnier by the day. No chance you get skinner for kessel straight up.

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Maybe. What do you guys think of moving Grabovski + for Backstrom from Washington? Not sure else they need but maybe Grabovski + Kulemin for Backstrom Ward?
I'd do it, no matter what. Backstrom is a world class player and beside kessel man that would be awesome.

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If Toronto is out of the playoffs race (or it isn't looking good) around the deadline, what players would you be willing to trade away for picks? (Assuming most competitive teams would be looking to deal picks, not players, to help obtain players for their playoff run).

I see Toronto's team eventually being:

JVR/Lupul - XXX - Kessel
JVR/Lupul - Kadri - Kulemin/Frattin
Komarov? - XXX - Biggs
Devane - McClement - Brown/Orr/Ross

Rielly - Phaneuf
Gardiner - XXXX
XXXX - XXXX
(Not sure how Gunnarson/Finn/Percy/Blacker/etc. end up/who to pair with who)

I'd personally want to trade:
Grabovski, Liles, MacArthur, and Franson,

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