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02-06-2013, 11:53 PM
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You forgot the part about the leafs fans asking for Morrow, Sutter, or 1st...

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You forgot the part about the leafs fans asking for Morrow, Sutter, or 1st...
We don't want Sutter, Morrow or your 1st.

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We don't want Sutter, Morrow or your 1st.
Okay, fine...guess we'll just have to keep these slugs.

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Okay, fine...guess we'll just have to keep these slugs.
and we will keep Kulemin

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Oh so we should be looking back 3+ years ago to determine "market value"? Guess that means every team should be looking signing Cheechoo for big deal, eh?

Never said anything about the Penguins pick becoming the first overall. I simply commented on the new system increasing the value of 1st round picks. In a shortened season, things could happen that leaves cup favorites out of the playoffs. Look at where some of the teams were at 42 games last year. And in a relatively deep draft coming up with a premium d-man and center prospect. ..

Every team is one slump away from hitting the links early. With that...I find it troubling that you fail to comprehend why a 1st might hold a tad more value this year when compared to other years.

Which doesn't make much sense anyway as Kulemin is worth no where near a 1st rounder. A 2nd and we can talk. Morrow, forget it. He's off limits and you and your fans know it. It's been brought up thousands of times and the answer is always no. And thats not fans talking...thats been coming from Shero's mouth often. Morrow, Harrington, and Pouliot are going no where. They are the future of the Pens D.

Kulemin is a 3rd liner on the Leafs...at best he's a 3rd wheel on Malkins line. Sure it would be nice to beef up that line...but for our prized D-prospect, our new 3C who's filling huge shoes, or a 1st in a shortened season as explained above...you best be send back Kessel.
I can't tell if you actually believe any of what you just said or if that's what you want to believe. So you believe the Penguins may not make the playoffs? this is what you're implying? A first round pick is worth more in a shortened season than it is in a full season? huh? One slump for a team like the Pens doesn't get them a top pick, it's the difference between the 24th pick and the 23rd pick which apparently holds incredible value. Kulemin is nowhere near worth a first. Not even close. A second though? well why the hell not?! You're seriously overrating a mid-late first rounder and if you don't think Kulemin is worth it and just some third wheel, I suggest you try watching a game because you really don't know what you're talking about. In your eyes he's a 7 goal scorer. In your eyes he has one goal this season. Lets forget the rest correct? Ya know, the 30 goal season. The rocket shot.The fact that he's the Leafs best defensive player. The points this season. The fact that him and Malkin would light it up.

He's a "third liner" on the Leafs because you haven't done any research to realize he's not a third liner here or anywhere. He's a second liner. Please, stop googling players stats and assuming you know something about them. A third wheel on Malkins line is laughable and shows how little you know.

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and we will keep Kulemin

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Everyone wins?

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Okay, fine...guess we'll just have to keep these slugs.
Ya that guys comments in this thread truly made my brain hurt.

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PENS eying Kulemin. Therefore PENS have to pay a premium.

It's not LEAFS shopping Kulemin. It's PENS eying Kulemin

GTFO with these Kennedy + 3rd offers. I wipe my ass with players like Kennedy

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PENS eying Kulemin. Therefore PENS have to pay a premium.

It's not LEAFS shopping Kulemin. It's PENS eying Kulemin

GTFO with these Kennedy + 3rd offers. I wipe my ass with players like Kennedy
Okay, keyboard warrior. No more Mountain Dew for you.

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02-07-2013, 12:08 AM
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well, according to pens fans kulemin isn't worth a third liner because he only scored seven goals last year, ignoring the fact he steadily improved every season before that. makes you wonder... why even bother offering B level prospects for him when you'll clearly be able to sign him at the league minimum in 2014?

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well, according to pens fans kulemin isn't worth a third liner because he only scored seven goals last year, ignoring the fact he steadily improved every season before that. makes you wonder... why even bother offering B level prospects for him when you'll clearly be able to sign him at the league minimum in 2014?
so, the B level prospects people are offering are who exactly?

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well, according to pens fans kulemin isn't worth a third liner because he only scored seven goals last year, ignoring the fact he steadily improved every season before that. makes you wonder... why even bother offering B level prospects for him when you'll clearly be able to sign him at the league minimum in 2014?
I'd actually love to see a list of every third liner in the NHL and have people tell me how many of them they'd take over Nik. Kulemin as a third liner is laughable.

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Morrow and a 1st?

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so, the B level prospects people are offering are who exactly?
tangradi and 2nd, etc...

do i really need to sift through this 20 page thread just to appease you?

(the answer is no.)

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Morrow and a 1st?
That would be idiotic on Pittsburgh's behalf.

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Okay, keyboard warrior. No more Mountain Dew for you.
Kennedy is worthless to a team like the Leafs. Why would they worsen their team to help the Pens?

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GTFO with these Kennedy + 3rd offers. I wipe my ass with players like Kennedy
Hah!

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tangradi and 2nd, etc...

do i really need to sift through this 20 page thread just to appease you?

(the answer is no.)

UMMMMM ... Tangradi isn't a prospect. He is a suspect.

To me, that offer reeks of a Pens fan getting Leaf fans back for the garbage ideas for Staal over the summer.

As far as B level prospects, who has been mentioned. Maatta - nope; Harrington - nope; Poulliott - nope; I think I saw Bennett - nope

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so, the B level prospects people are offering are who exactly?
Again, this is a matter of opinion but who do you see as being above a B-level prospect? seems like there are a lot of untouchables when I only see 2.

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like i said before, you can have macarthur for a 3rd.

just as sutter is a key piece to your team, kulemin is a key player to the leafs. you can cherry pick offensive stats all day it won't change the fact that kulemin isn't being sold off to the highest bidder for cast away prospects. deal with it.

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I honestly do not understand why this has to be so ****ing aggressive on both sides. Kennedy + 3rd or B prospects have not been the offers at all. Not even close.

No one is forcing Kennedy on you, he was included in a frigging Harrington+1st deal to clear a roster spot. Taking him off that deal, if you feel he has negative value to you, is the easiest thing in the world.

If you donīt want futures, that is okay, we will have to accept that, but it seriously feels like some are so set on getting mad, that they make ludicrous offers up in their heads now.

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I honestly do not understand why this has to be so ****ing aggressive on both sides. Kennedy + 3rd or B prospects have not been the offers at all. Not even close.

No one is forcing Kennedy on you, he was included in a frigging Harrington+1st deal to clear a roster spot. Taking him off that deal, if you feel he has negative value to you, is the easiest thing in the world.

If you donīt want futures, that is okay, we will have to accept that, but it seriously feels like some are so set on getting mad, that they make ludicrous offers up in their heads now.
I would go through this thread but I prefer not to have to bang my head repeatedly against the wall. But it has been offered.

Harrington + 1st isn't bad. If that 1st is a non playoff 1st. Or even 15ish range

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Kennedy is worthless to a team like the Leafs. Why would they worsen their team to help the Pens?
Where the **** did I mention anything about Kennedy's worth to the Leafs? Seriously, where?

Look back at the comment I bolded...

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Again, this is a matter of opinion but who do you see as being above a B-level prospect? seems like there are a lot of untouchables when I only see 2.
Pouliot and maybe Maatta from proposals actually made in this thread. Despres if you still consider him a prospect.
The ones that could be considered B level (Harrington and Dumoulin) are in turn closer to NHL ready and both were offered with a 1st.
Tangradi is at this stage not even a B level prospect, that proposal wasn`t good. There, that`s my thoughts on it.

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how about colborne and 2nd for sutter?

feels good man.

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