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02-06-2013, 07:01 PM
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He was a good kid and can do well in a Devils uniform. I can picture him fitting on your team.

Loktionov is a top 6 or bust kind of player. He is pure skill, has great hands and is very shifty with the puck, and skates pretty well. However, he is undersized, gets pushed around easily, and is a bit of an injury risk. Even with his limited playing time (59 games), he has injured his shoulder twice with us and has missed over 50 games.

He can't really play well on the wings and is a natural center which is where his skillset is also most effective. He isn't a sniper, and doesn't really have much of a shot. His primary asset is his playmaking ability. He is very good at finding the seem, passing lanes, and getting the puck onto the sticks of shooters. Pair him with a couple of shooters and he can do some damage. He isn't a defensive player, so PK is out of the question, but he can be useful on the PP.

I wish him the best, he really was well liked, and I am happy he gets another shot at the NHL. Just be wary that he may pose a flight risk if he doesn't make your roster at the end of the year, as he and Voynov were threatening KHL not too long ago; Voynov made the roster, and Loktionov didn't. I can't imagine it appeals him too much to work his way up another depth chart, so he is looking to play immediately this year, which is the reason for the discount:

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I have a feeling he will stick around though. He has already committed over four years in North America trying to play in the NHL. But you never know and should be prepared for either scenario. Not a big deal at the cost of a 5th either way.

Cheers.
Top 6 doesn't mean a lot for the Devils, there's no real checking line here, just a standard 4th line. All the 3 first lines are sharing the defensive assignment, defensive zone starts, etc, etc.
Same goes with the defensive pairings. Neither a real 1st pairing nor a sheltered one.

Thanks for the info though.

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02-06-2013, 07:02 PM
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Kid is bad on Faceoffs ??? Like I said put him 1st line and Zajac at LW. Tell the kid to cheat the faceoff every single time. He wins it , great. He gets caught, Zajac comes in

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Seems like a really low risk high reward trade.

In regards to Ted's, anyone thinks this helps him by pairing him with another similarly skilled player.

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Seems like a really low risk high reward trade.

In regards to Ted's, anyone thinks this helps him by pairing him with another similarly skilled player.
Ted will not be anywhere near him . Highly doubt Lou makes this deal and keeps him in the AHL

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02-06-2013, 07:07 PM
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Flip Josefson to wing. With a decent play maker, he might be able to pick his spots better and pot a few goals.
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We need more speed down the wings. For that alone, I'm all for putting Josefson at wing.
Just to remind those with a bad short-term memory.

Josefson played on Kruger`s wing for Djurgardens and on Henrique`s wing in his first year in Albany.

If they choose to play both injury-prone Nogoalovs together, Josefson can take the FOs if necessary.

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What do you think about that ?

Henrique-Zajac-Kovalchuk
Elias-Josefson-Clarkson
Zubrus-Sushi-Butler
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What do you think about that ?

Henrique-Zajac-Kovalchuk
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Zubrus-Sushi-Butler
Carter-Gio-Bernier
I like those. He needs Butler cause Butler loves to shoot, and Zubie can get possession along the boards

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I wouldnt be against putting him at First Line center and putting Zajac at LW. Just tell the kid to cheat the faceoff every time and if hes kicked out Zajac just comes in an wins the faceoff
That's crazy talk right there.

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Ted will not be anywhere near him . Highly doubt Lou makes this deal and keeps him in the AHL
So u think he is in the NHL sooner then later? Would be nice to get to see his game.

Think I read 22 pnts in 22 AHL games this year? Noice if true.

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That's crazy talk right there.
I was kidding, but hey it sounded good. And no I dont want him on our first line unless he proves he can

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Loktionov is a top 6 or bust kind of player.

He is pure skill, has great hands and is very shifty with the puck, and skates pretty well.

However, he is undersized, gets pushed around easily, and is a bit of an injury risk.

His primary asset is his playmaking ability.

He isn't a defensive player, so PK is out of the question.
So the Devils traded for Russian Tedenby.

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02-06-2013, 07:14 PM
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So the Devils traded for Russian Tedenby.

Awesome.
Hes better defensively and he has a much better hockey IQ then Ted

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I like those. He needs Butler cause Butler loves to shoot, and Zubie can get possession along the boards
It's time to unleash Josfeson too IMO. Let's him finally develop real chemistry with top 6 calibers. Up to now, he's been a top 6 player just sporadically.

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So the Devils traded for Russian Tedenby.
This is my fear, but am going to keep an open mind.

At the very least, it's a sign that Lou is beginning to make some maneuvers.

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02-06-2013, 07:18 PM
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I will say this all the time Loktionov could have 70/80/90 pt seasons because he's remindin me of a less psycho yashin without the turtleneck and I'm not saying he will be but he has as high of a ceilin...

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What do you think about that ?

Henrique-Zajac-Kovalchuk
Elias-Josefson-Clarkson
Zubrus-Sushi-Butler
Carter-Gio-Bernier
No. Josefson does not belong in the top 6.

And BenedictGomez, I thought the same thing...

You even get the mixed reviews from the Kings fanbase with people loving the guy to death saying he never got a fair shot and on the other side you have people who don't care.

Only a 5th rounder...

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I will say this all the time Loktionov could have 70/80/90 pt seasons because he's remindin me of a less psycho yashin without the turtleneck and I'm not saying he will be but he has as high of a ceilin...

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I will say this all the time Loktionov could have 70/80/90 pt seasons because he's remindin me of a less psycho yashin without the turtleneck and I'm not saying he will be but he has as high of a ceilin...
Brah.

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Hes better defensively and he has a much better hockey IQ then Ted
PRO: The above is good news
CON: The above bar is low to hurdle


I'm 99% kidding though, it's a 5th round pick so I dont give a ratz azz.

If he has even 65% the talent King's fans say he does it's worth the virtual non-risk.

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Only thing I would have wanted in the 4th-7th was goalie depth and that wasn't going to happen so yeah, who cares about the pick

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Flip Josefson to wing. With a decent play maker, he might be able to pick his spots better and pot a few goals.
But Lemaire says Yayo should be a centre. We'll see, if it comes to finding a spot for everyone, I'm sure DeBoer will be able to make it work.

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Hes better defensively and he has a much better hockey IQ then Ted
He's going to need to have those things to stick. Kings fans seem to be unanimous saying he's not very strong on the puck. Our puck responsibility has been shaky enough already through the first few games.

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But Lemaire says Yayo should be a centre. We'll see, if it comes to finding a spot for everyone, I'm sure DeBoer will be able to make it work.
My thanks to Lemaire for everything he's done for this team but...

This team has a different philosophy under Pete and players will have to fulfill different roles because of that. Josefson might have to be one of those victims.

Then again, this me talking out of my ass right now - we'll see what Pete's plans actually are.

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I will say this all the time Loktionov could have 70/80/90 pt seasons because he's remindin me of a less psycho yashin without the turtleneck and I'm not saying he will be but he has as high of a ceilin...
The turtleneck makes the man.

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What makes everyone so sure he will be up with the big club soon enough? I'd like to believe he will, but I'm not sure.

I would like to see Matteau go back. I see no reason for us to keep him around. Let him finish the year in the juniors, and see where he's at this Summer. If I had to guess I see him gone next week or maybe the week after at most.

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