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02-07-2013, 03:38 PM
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Should be room on Team Canada for both Hall and Eberle (and Seguin), especially considering rosters will probably go up to 25, from 23.
Forsure. It's just weird to me, I scroll through this entire thread and see Eberle on 99% of the teams and I think I'm the only person who listed Hall on the roster.

Kid is criminally underrated.

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02-07-2013, 03:43 PM
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Tavares - Crosby - Eberle
Stamkos - Giroux - Perry
Nash - Toews - Richards
Benn - Bergeron - Iginla
Hall

Pietrangelo - Weber
Keith - Doughty
Hamhuis - Letang
Subban

Price
Luongo
Fleury

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02-07-2013, 03:49 PM
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I've got the magic combination, fear not.

Stamkos Crosby Nash
Perry Tavares Giroux
E. Staal Thornton Toews
M. Richards Bergeron Lucic

Weber Doughty
Keith Pietreangelo
Girard Letang

Price
Luo
Ward

There you go. The 2014 team Canada the right way.

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02-07-2013, 03:53 PM
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I've got the magic combination, fear not.

Stamkos Crosby Nash
Perry Tavares Giroux
E. Staal Thornton Toews
M. Richards Bergeron Lucic

Weber Doughty
Keith Pietreangelo
Girard Letang

Price
Luo
Ward

There you go. The 2014 team Canada the right way.
Toews will play center. No ifs ands or buts about it. Zero chance he plays wing.

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02-07-2013, 03:55 PM
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canada

Nash - Crosby - Stamkos
Neal - Tavares - Eberle
E. Kane - Toews - Giroux
Lucic - E. Staal - Perry
Bergeron/Getzlaf

Suter - Weber
Keith - Seabrook
McDonagh - Pietrangelo
Hamonic(homer pick)/Doughty

price
quick
and who ever is the best canadian goalie this season not named price or quick

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02-07-2013, 03:55 PM
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Just so we are clear, you are saying that the guy who, as a 21 year old, led the last Olympic team in scoring doesn't have the offensive upside to play in the top 6?

Anyways, regardless of what nominal "line" he is on, I would be willing to wager he will be among the top 2 centres in ice time (if not the top). He will also definitely be playing centre, there are many others that will be moved to the wing before Toews.
You have the Crosby line which is pretty the #1 line. The next 2 lines can be switched in terms of how you want to look at it, the line Toews will center will be the "checking" line, and will most likely get more ice time than the "2nd line". Labelling Toews line as the 3rd line has more to do with how most of us have been brought up and how we always label the checking line as the 3rd line.

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02-07-2013, 03:58 PM
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Team Canada
Matt cooke- Darren helm- colby armstrong
Ryane clowe-Josh bailey- blake comeau
Jason chimera- tyler bozak- colton orr
Ray whitney- vernon fiddler- eberle

clitsome- shea weber
Jared cowen- Adam mcquaid
steve montador- michael del zotto
Price
Luongo

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02-07-2013, 04:01 PM
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canada

Nash - Crosby - Stamkos
Neal - Tavares - Eberle
E. Kane - Toews - Giroux
Lucic - E. Staal - Perry
Bergeron/Getzlaf

Suter - Weber
Keith - Seabrook
McDonagh - Pietrangelo
Hamonic(homer pick)/Doughty

price
quick
and who ever is the best canadian goalie this season not named price or quick
Quick and Suter aren't Canadian.

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02-07-2013, 04:02 PM
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canada

Nash - Crosby - Stamkos
Neal - Tavares - Eberle
E. Kane - Toews - Giroux
Lucic - E. Staal - Perry
Bergeron/Getzlaf

Suter - Weber
Keith - Seabrook
McDonagh - Pietrangelo
Hamonic(homer pick)/Doughty

price
quick
and who ever is the best canadian goalie this season not named price or quick
Quick is American. So are McDonagh and Suter.

Why Lucic? He wouldn't add any value to Team Canada - he's a poor skater to begin with, which would only be compounded on the international ice surface, poor defensively, can't kill penalties, and isn't on the same level offensively as guys in the top-9 on this team. So basically he'd be a 4th line winger, but then you need to consider that physical play and banging and crashing in the corners is significantly less important on international ice. Guys like Richards, Staal, Bergeron and Benn can give us the physicality and ability to work the corners that we need.

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02-07-2013, 04:03 PM
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I did this a yr ago:

Kane - Crosby - Stamkos
Hall - The Nuge - Perry
Couture - Towes - Nash
Benn - Tavares - Giroux

Weber - Pietrangelo
Letang - Keith
Doughty - Del Zotto

Luongo, Price, X

... So some of my young picks haven't developed... gambled on The Nuge, Evander Kane, and Del Zotto stepping up another level..
The lockout really will hamper the younger prospects from hitting their strides for next yr. Too bad for them.

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02-07-2013, 04:05 PM
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Team Canada
Matt cooke- Darren helm- colby armstrong
Ryane clowe-Josh bailey- blake comeau
Jason chimera- tyler bozak- colton orr
Ray whitney- vernon fiddler- eberle

clitsome- shea weber
Jared cowen- Adam mcquaid
steve montador- michael del zotto
Price
Luongo
How can this team not win? Talent and chemistry!

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02-07-2013, 04:07 PM
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You have the Crosby line which is pretty the #1 line. The next 2 lines can be switched in terms of how you want to look at it, the line Toews will center will be the "checking" line, and will most likely get more ice time than the "2nd line". Labelling Toews line as the 3rd line has more to do with how most of us have been brought up and how we always label the checking line as the 3rd line.
The Toews line was the #2 line during the medal round at Vancouver, but guys like Marleau (a nominal 4th liner) got a time of ice time because of his special teams play.

It all depends on how you structure your lines. I'd like to see Crosby and Stamkos centering separate lines, with Toews centering a 2-way line and Bergeron centering a more defensively-oriented, 4th line. In that scenario I wouldn't expect the overall ice time of the top 3 lines to vary a whole lot.

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02-07-2013, 04:10 PM
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How can this team not win? Talent and chemistry!
Thank you! at least someone knows what team gives canada the best chance to win

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02-07-2013, 05:23 PM
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You have the Crosby line which is pretty the #1 line. The next 2 lines can be switched in terms of how you want to look at it, the line Toews will center will be the "checking" line, and will most likely get more ice time than the "2nd line". Labelling Toews line as the 3rd line has more to do with how most of us have been brought up and how we always label the checking line as the 3rd line.
Yeah, I understand that. That's why I said "nominal" line. My main issue was people putting him as a 4th line winger.

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02-07-2013, 06:10 PM
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lol

but i agree. Schneider has never been a starter at the NHL level. No way he beats out Jimmy Howard for the 3rd spot.

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I don't know, but I love Russia's potential top 9.

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02-07-2013, 06:54 PM
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Assuming its a 25 man roster as speculated:

Tavares-Crosby-Stamkos
E.Staal-Giroux-Perry
M.Richards-Toews-Nash
J.Staal-Bergeron-Iginla
Eberle and 1 of Getzlaf or Benn (neither are great skaters for the big ice, wanna see how Getz rebounds)

Keith-Doughty
Letang-Weber
M.Staal-Pietrangelo
B.Campbell-Subban

Price
Ward
Luongo

Picked a fast 3 zone team, the Russian speed worries me on the big ice. B.Campbell might be a stretch but he's one of the best skating defenseman I've ever seen and he seems to be a lot better player in Florida. I wanted a mobile offensive d, preferably a LH shot.

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02-07-2013, 07:07 PM
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So many things can happen leading up to the Olympics

Forward Locks imo
Crosby
Stamkos
Giroux
Tavares
Nash
Toews
Perry

Defense Locks
Weber
Keith
Letang
Doughty
Pietrangelo

Eberle, Spezza, Bergeron, Benn, Seguin, Hall, Subban, Staal, Seabrook, Hamhuis, Richards, even Thornton imo do not have their spots secured, but many of them are likely to make it.

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02-07-2013, 07:32 PM
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Forsure. It's just weird to me, I scroll through this entire thread and see Eberle on 99% of the teams and I think I'm the only person who listed Hall on the roster.

Kid is criminally underrated.
Hall doesn't bring anything to the team that they don't already have.

At the same time Eberle has proven more internationally.

Hall has a shot at the team, I would say he has the same chance as a guy like J.Staal.

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02-07-2013, 07:53 PM
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Canada

Tavares Crosby Giroux
E. Staal Stamkos St. Louis
Nash Toews M. Richards
Sharp Bergeron Seguin
Eberle Benn

Doughty Weber
M. Staal Pietrangelo
Keith Seabrook
Hamhuis Letang

Price
Luongo
Fleury

USA

Parise Stastny Ryan
Pacioretty Kesler Kane
Pavelski Backes Callahan
Van Riemsdyk Stepan Kessel
Wheeler Brown

Suter Yandle
McDonagh Shattenkirk
Fowler E. Johnson
J. Johnson Byfuglien

Quick
Miller
Howard


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Canada's center depth is insane.

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02-07-2013, 08:29 PM
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Not speculating with the rosters yet, too early to do that. But I'd say the gold medal game will be a tight one between Sweden and Canada. The Canadian team has easily the best depth overall, they always do. Sweden in my mind is clearly the strongest European team at the moment and tournament and ice could be tilted towards them because the games will be played on larger ice. Remember, Europeans took all the medals the last two times Olympics were on larger ice (1998 Czech - Russia - Finland, 2006 Sweden - Finland - Czech) despite Canadians being favourites then, too.

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02-07-2013, 08:37 PM
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Not speculating with the rosters yet, too early to do that. But I'd say the gold medal game will be a tight one between Sweden and Canada. The Canadian team has easily the best depth overall, they always do. Sweden in my mind is clearly the strongest European team at the moment and tournament and ice could be tilted towards them because the games will be played on larger ice. Remember, Europeans took all the medals the last two times Olympics were on larger ice (1998 Czech - Russia - Finland, 2006 Sweden - Finland - Czech) despite Canadians being favourites then, too.
2002 was on larger ice and Canada won gold.

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Hall doesn't bring anything to the team that they don't already have.

At the same time Eberle has proven more internationally.

Hall has a shot at the team, I would say he has the same chance as a guy like J.Staal.
He's a natural LW(something Canada is sorely lacking) would be the fastest skater on the entire team (international ice) and has chemistry with Tavares and Eberle.

If he keeps scoring around a PPG until Sochi I wouldn't be surprised at all if he made the team.

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2002 was on larger ice and Canada won gold.
for my facts. But I'll say the Sedins will put up quite a show on larger ice before I get my coat.

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