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02-08-2013, 12:02 AM
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Love the fact that the guys on Vancouver 1040 are more or less saying it is a slam dunk that Luongo is the starting goalie

Right now Price and MAF are in the lead in my opinion
If the games started today Luongo would definitely be the starting goalie. Experience being the main factor and he is still playing at a high level. I would be comfortable with Price as well but we shall see.

MAF? Not after last year's playoffs.

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MAF? I hope he starts..since I am an American fan.

Luongo won gold in 2010 and is still one of the best in the league, I don't see what has changed since then.
The only thing that has changed is that Luongo has looked even better, and is playing like he was in his prime.

Yet dumb ass ferraro picks MAF over him

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02-08-2013, 06:57 AM
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Neal-Crosby-Tavares
Hall-Stamkos-Giroux
Nash-Toews-E Staal
M Richards-Bergeron-Eberle
Getzlaf
Seguin

Benn can be switched for Neal if he's playing better. Neal is there because he's a big body who can snipe and has previous experience playing with Crosby.

Pietrangelo-Doughty
Letang-Weber
Keith-Seabrook
Campbell

Canada has so many RH defence men it's kind of hard to know who's going to play what side.

Price
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My prediction for Olympic Gold medal team is.....Sweden

The Swedes are the defending "big ice" Olympic champs and will play well on the big ice of Sochi. They have a world class defence corps and a good mixture of youth and experience up front. Don't forget about the King in net. Swedes are going to be tough to beat.

Other random thoughts...

Team Russia - if they can put it all together....look out! Definitely one of the most Dynamic teams in the tourney. I would not be disappointed to see team Russia win gold on the backs of OV and Malkin.

Team Canada - my team! Go Canada all the way! I just don't see us as favourites this time around. Hopefully this team comes together and puts aside any previous animosity for the betterment of the team (I'm think Sid and Giroux here)

Team USA - tons of talent and always a medal threat. But I'm thinking a repeat of Nagano is coming.

Team Finland - dark horse medal contender but never count the out

Czechs - see above. Haven't done much since Nagano. They might be a sleeper.

Slovaks - could you imagine a team Czechoslovakia?

Anyone else is just filler.

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02-08-2013, 08:27 AM
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my guess for Canada in Sochi '14...

FORWARD:
Steven Stamkos - (TBL-C) // Sidney Crosby - (PIT-C) // Claude Giroux - (PHI-R)
Joe Thornton - (SJS-C) // Ryan Getzlaf - (ANA-C) // Corey Perry - (ANA-R)
Patrick Sharp - (CHI-L) // Jonathan Toews - (CHI-C) // Patrick Marleau - (SJS-L)
Mike Richards - (LAK-C) // Patrice Bergeron - (BOS-C) // Eric Staal - (CAR-C)
Rick Nash - (NYR-L)

DEFENSE:
Alex Pietrangelo - (STL-D) // Shea Weber - (NSH-D)
Kris Letang - (PIT-D) // Drew Doughty - (LAK-D)
Brent Seabrook - (CHI-D) // Duncan Keith - (CHI-D)
P.K. Subban - (MTL-D)

GOALIE:
Roberto Luongo - (VAN-G) // Carey Price - (MTL-G) // Cam Ward - (CAR-G)

ALSO CONSIDERED:
Jamie Benn - (DAL-L), Jeff Carter - (LAK-C), Jordan Eberle - (EDM-R), Simon Gagne - (LAK-L), Taylor Hall - (EDM-L), Evander Kane - (WPG-L), Martin St Louis - (TBL-R), James Neal - (PIT-L), Ryan NugentHopkins - (EDM-C), David Perron - (STL-L), Derek Roy - (DAL-C), Tyler Seguin - (BOS-C), Jeff Skinner - (CAR-C), Jason Spezza - (OTT-C), John Tavares - (NYI-C), Karl Alzner - (WSH-D), Dan Boyle - (SJS-D), Brian Campbell - (FLA-D), Mike Green - (WSH-D), Dion Phaneuf - (TOR-D), Justin Schultz - (EDM-D), Marc Staal - (NYR-D), Michael Del Zotto - (NYR-D), Martin Brodeur - (NJD-G), Marc-Andre Fleury - (PIT-G)

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02-08-2013, 08:41 AM
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my guess for Canada in Sochi '14...

FORWARD:
Steven Stamkos - (TBL-C) // Sidney Crosby - (PIT-C) // Claude Giroux - (PHI-R)
Joe Thornton - (SJS-C) // Ryan Getzlaf - (ANA-C) // Corey Perry - (ANA-R)
Patrick Sharp - (CHI-L) // Jonathan Toews - (CHI-C) // Patrick Marleau - (SJS-L)
Mike Richards - (LAK-C) // Patrice Bergeron - (BOS-C) // Eric Staal - (CAR-C)
Rick Nash - (NYR-L)

DEFENSE:
Alex Pietrangelo - (STL-D) // Shea Weber - (NSH-D)
Kris Letang - (PIT-D) // Drew Doughty - (LAK-D)
Brent Seabrook - (CHI-D) // Duncan Keith - (CHI-D)
P.K. Subban - (MTL-D)

GOALIE:
Roberto Luongo - (VAN-G) // Carey Price - (MTL-G) // Cam Ward - (CAR-G)

ALSO CONSIDERED:
Jamie Benn - (DAL-L), Jeff Carter - (LAK-C), Jordan Eberle - (EDM-R), Simon Gagne - (LAK-L), Taylor Hall - (EDM-L), Evander Kane - (WPG-L), Martin St Louis - (TBL-R), James Neal - (PIT-L), Ryan NugentHopkins - (EDM-C), David Perron - (STL-L), Derek Roy - (DAL-C), Tyler Seguin - (BOS-C), Jeff Skinner - (CAR-C), Jason Spezza - (OTT-C), John Tavares - (NYI-C), Karl Alzner - (WSH-D), Dan Boyle - (SJS-D), Brian Campbell - (FLA-D), Mike Green - (WSH-D), Dion Phaneuf - (TOR-D), Justin Schultz - (EDM-D), Marc Staal - (NYR-D), Michael Del Zotto - (NYR-D), Martin Brodeur - (NJD-G), Marc-Andre Fleury - (PIT-G)
Oh brother! Good grief.... sharpen your pencil you are going to have to tweek that line-up.

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02-08-2013, 08:45 AM
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GOALIE:
Roberto Luongo - (VAN-G)

ALSO CONSIDERED:
Simon Gagne - (LAK-L), Derek Roy - (DAL-C)
you can't be serious.

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02-08-2013, 09:03 AM
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Sweden

Sedin - Sedin (A) - Landeskog
Eriksson - Zetterberg (C) - Franzén
Steen - Bäckström - Silfverberg
Hagelin - Berglund - Stålberg
Johansson/Krüger

Karlsson - Hedman
OEL - Kronwall (A)
Enström - Edler
Brodin/Larsson

Lundqvist
Lindbäck
Fasth


Not sure how the lines a D-pairings would work, but luckily that's not my job to decide. These are the players I'd like to see if I had to pick a team today.
Could very well turn out to be our greatest team ever. Probably can't match the 2006 teams offense, but the defence and goalkeeping is absolutely stacked.
Anything but a gold medal is a disappointment.

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Finnish team is going to be old: Selanne (43), Saku Koivu (39), Salo (39), Timonen (38), Lydman (36), Olli Jokinen (35),...

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The only thing that has changed is that Luongo has looked even better, and is playing like he was in his prime.

Yet dumb ass ferraro picks MAF over him
Ya... he spent all yesterday backtracking and said he'd choose Luongo over MAF.

Basically he did the whole process and like a lot of us when we do it, we either forget a player or overthink it.

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My lineup:

Jeff Skinner -- Sidney Crosby 'C' -- Steven Stamkos
John Tavares -- Claude Giroux -- James Neal
Eric Staal -- Jonathan Toews 'A' -- Rick Nash 'A'
Jamie Benn -- Patrice Bergeron -- Tyler Seguin
Jordan Eberle
Logan Couture

Shea Weber 'A' -- Drew Doughty
Dan Hamhuis -- Alex Pietrangelo
Duncan Kieth -- Brent Seabrook
Dan Girardi -- Kris Letang

Price
Luongo
Ward

Close cuts:
Forward: Martin St Louis, Patrick Sharp, Jordan Staal, Taylor Hall
Defence: Marc Staal, Michael Del Zotto, Brian Campbell

Some notes:
- I have Jeff Skinner on this team because he is a puck hound and a scorer who actually has the hockey IQ to keep up with Sidney Crosby.
- Giroux and Tavares is another combo I like. JT has shown the ability to play wing on big ice, and him and Giroux are masters with the puck in tight spaces, and with them you put our best pure sniper right now after Stamkos, James Neal
-Eric Staal played the wing in Vancouver, and I think he skating is good enough to do the same in Sochi, playing a Mike Richards esque role along with Nash and Toews.
- Tyler Seguin will be flying on international ice, and he is a guy who youd think starts with Bergeron his teammate, but could definitely rise to the top 6.
- Eberle is the 13th forward, Couture would be the 14th, as he can play virtually any role.
- On defence, I love the simple game of Dan Hamhuis, and he is a left defenceman, something we are short on.
- Dan Girardi I think can handle big ice, but he would be my 8th defenceman anyways, so he probably wouldnt play unless Seabrook or Weber got hurt. Letang is the 7th defenceman, my top PP QB, and the guy you plug on a pair when you need offence

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E.Staal Crosby'C' Stamkos
Taveres Giroux Perry
Nash Toews'A' Eberle
Hall J.Staal Bergeron

M.Richards RNH


Keith Doughty
Weber'A' Pietrangelo
Letang Seabrook

M.Staal J.Schultz


Price
Fluery

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02-08-2013, 10:24 AM
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There isn't any competition for Canada in 2014, there roster blows away every other country's. I think it may actually be worse than the competition gap between USA basketball and the rest. If Canada were to lose, it'd be one of the biggest upsets in history.

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There isn't any competition for Canada in 2014, there roster blows away every other country's. I think it may actually be worse than the competition gap between USA basketball and the rest. If Canada were to lose, it'd be one of the biggest upsets in history.

I don't think that Canada's roster "blows away every other country's". I would say that Sweden might have the same level of goal-tending and a better set of D-men than Canada. With that said, Canada might have a better team taken its forwards, but it is far from "blowing away".

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I don't think that Canada's roster "blows away every other country's". I would say that Sweden might have the same level of goal-tending and a better set of D-men than Canada. With that said, Canada might have a better team taken its forwards, but it is far from "blowing away".
Sweden's defense is not anywhere close to Canada's. They have some good offensive d-men but lack guys that can actually play defense.

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My lineup:

Jeff Skinner -- Sidney Crosby 'C' -- Steven Stamkos
John Tavares -- Claude Giroux -- James Neal
Eric Staal -- Jonathan Toews 'A' -- Rick Nash 'A'
Jamie Benn -- Patrice Bergeron -- Tyler Seguin
Jordan Eberle
Logan Couture

Shea Weber 'A' -- Drew Doughty
Dan Hamhuis -- Alex Pietrangelo
Duncan Kieth -- Brent Seabrook
Dan Girardi -- Kris Letang

Price
Luongo
Ward

Close cuts:
Forward: Martin St Louis, Patrick Sharp, Jordan Staal, Taylor Hall
Defence: Marc Staal, Michael Del Zotto, Brian Campbell

Some notes:
- I have Jeff Skinner on this team because he is a puck hound and a scorer who actually has the hockey IQ to keep up with Sidney Crosby.
- Giroux and Tavares is another combo I like. JT has shown the ability to play wing on big ice, and him and Giroux are masters with the puck in tight spaces, and with them you put our best pure sniper right now after Stamkos, James Neal
-Eric Staal played the wing in Vancouver, and I think he skating is good enough to do the same in Sochi, playing a Mike Richards esque role along with Nash and Toews.
- Tyler Seguin will be flying on international ice, and he is a guy who youd think starts with Bergeron his teammate, but could definitely rise to the top 6.
- Eberle is the 13th forward, Couture would be the 14th, as he can play virtually any role.
- On defence, I love the simple game of Dan Hamhuis, and he is a left defenceman, something we are short on.
- Dan Girardi I think can handle big ice, but he would be my 8th defenceman anyways, so he probably wouldnt play unless Seabrook or Weber got hurt. Letang is the 7th defenceman, my top PP QB, and the guy you plug on a pair when you need offence
Solid team, but do you really think Skinner can handle #1 scoring line minutes at the Olympic level? If you're committed to Skinner, I'd try and find a way to line him up with Staal, who he's familiar with from Carolina...

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That Swedish team also is EXTREMELY soft, may be softer than the Russian squad.

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Neal-Crosby-Tavares
Hall-Stamkos-Giroux
Nash-Toews-E Staal
M Richards-Bergeron-Eberle
Getzlaf
Seguin

Benn can be switched for Neal if he's playing better. Neal is there because he's a big body who can snipe and has previous experience playing with Crosby.

Pietrangelo-Doughty
Letang-Weber
Keith-Seabrook
Campbell

Canada has so many RH defence men it's kind of hard to know who's going to play what side.

Price
Luongo
Smith
So if Neal is playing better than Benn "At that time" then Benn is left off the roster? Benn IMO is the better player of the two!

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I'm gonna build around Christian Dube and Kevin Dallman until these NHL wussies commit. :p

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That Swedish team also is EXTREMELY soft, may be softer than the Russian squad.
Which Nagano and Turino proved so well that Canada bringing big, tough teams translates sooo well on the big ice. If we bring a big slower squad the Swedes and Russians will skate circles around us

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Scoring Line 1

Stamkos - Crosby - Giroux

Scoring Line 2

Nash - Getzlaf - Perry

Hybrid Line "3"

Benn - Toews - Neal

Shutdown Line


M. Richards - Bergeron - E. Staal

#13 Either Eberle/Speeza


D Line 1

Weber - Keith

D Line 2

Letang - Pietrangelo

D Line 3

Doughty - Boyle (2010 Niedermayer-esce selection)

#7 Alzner/Seabrook


Tendys

Price
Luongo
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There isn't any competition for Canada in 2014, there roster blows away every other country's. I think it may actually be worse than the competition gap between USA basketball and the rest. If Canada were to lose, it'd be one of the biggest upsets in history.
we barely won the last Olympics and arguably have a worse set of defenders and goalies than last time. while the US/Swedish/Russian teams have all improved.

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Sweden's defense is not anywhere close to Canada's. They have some good offensive d-men but lack guys that can actually play defense.
Still, nothing near "blows away" even now 2013. Besides projection of the younger Swedish D-men got a steep development curve.

Now this thread has been moved from the subforum of NHL and merged into the "Canada Roster Discussion" thread so I quit this discussion - at least in this thread.

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Stamkos-Crosby-Perry
Nash-Spezza-Tavares
Toews-Giroux-Staal
Benn-Bergeron-Seguin
Eberle

Doughty-Pietrangelo
Weber-Letang
Keith-Seabrook
(Campbell or Burns)

Luongo
Price
(Ward or Fleury)

The only thing I don't really like about the D is that everyone but Keith and Campbell are right hand shots, so 2 of the pairings will have someone playing on their off-side. There really aren't that many elite Canadian LHD's though.

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