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2014 - Canada Roster Discussion (Part IV)

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02-15-2013, 06:23 AM
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They are to you what Finland is to the US (always seem to beat us in the Worlds)
It's good to see from other nations. If Switzerland had some Scoring/ Secondary scoring... they could be scary lol. Their team defence is great and it is really frustrating to watch games between the 2 lol. As i would bet is the cast with u guys and finland haha.

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02-15-2013, 06:26 AM
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Stamkos - Crosby - Giroux
Nash - Tavares - Eberle
Staal - Toews - Perry
Richards - Bergeron - Staal
Neal - Iginla

Doughty - Weber
Letang - Pietrangelo
Girardi - Staal
Seabrook - Keith

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Does any other nation even have a chance?
Nobody has any chance...

I love the Canadian arrogance. You guys have the most depth in the world, but at top tier talent level, Russia has always been there, and Finland, Sweden, and the US have caught up and are on par.

James van Riemsdyk- Ryan Kesler - Patrick Kane
Zach Parise- Joe Pavelski - Bobby Ryan
Ryan Callahan- David Backes- Phil Kessel
Max Pacioretty- TJ Oshie -Dustin Brown

Ryan Suter- Keith Yandle
Jack Johnson – Nick Leddy
Alex Goligoski - Jeff Petry
Cam Fowler

Goalie: Jonathan Quick, Cory Schneider, Jimmy Howard

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02-15-2013, 06:30 AM
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Nobody has any chance...

I love the Canadian arrogance. You guys have the most depth in the world, but at top tier talent level, Russia has always been there, and Finland, Sweden, and the US have caught up and are on par.

James van Riemsdyk- Ryan Kesler - Patrick Kane
Zach Parise- Joe Pavelski - Bobby Ryan
Ryan Callahan- David Backes- Phil Kessel
Max Pacioretty- TJ Oshie -Dustin Brown

Ryan Suter- Keith Yandle
Jack Johnson – Nick Leddy
Alex Goligoski - Jeff Petry
Cam Fowler

Goalie: Jonathan Quick, Cory Schneider, Jimmy Howard
last 3 olympics tells the story. 2 of 3 olympics on small ice it is almost a given that Canada wins gold... Large ice is a different story lol.

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02-15-2013, 06:31 AM
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Points are not everything to ones game.
Seabrook brings much more to the game than Kronwall than the difference of 2 points... just 1 example.

Canada D > Sveden D
Bad example. I highly doubt a Kronwall stictly focusing on defense versus your top forwards is any less of a player than Seabrook. It'll get rough i tell ya!

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02-15-2013, 06:35 AM
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With that goaltending we will be lucky to get a medal.
That won't be the goalie group

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02-15-2013, 06:35 AM
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Bad example. I highly doubt a Kronwall stictly focusing on defense versus your top forwards is any less of a player than Seabrook. It'll get rough i tell ya!
Nowhere for Kronwall to turtle... that's all he's good for, those big physical checks only to turtle right after. You put him in his place he will not take liberties and therefore not be a non factor.

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last 3 olympics tells the story. 2 of 3 olympics on small ice it is almost a given that Canada wins gold... Large ice is a different story lol.
Unbelievable how people make this mistake still after all this time. 2002 Salt Lake City was International Ice. Vancouver was the first time in history the IOC permitted the use of an NHL size rink.

check out out the OP. Rookie user just opened up an account to post this? Somehow I think this is a fake account just to stir up ****.

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Anyone notice how when the Olympics are in North America it's Canada vs the US and anywhere else those teams are out of it? Same thing will likely happen this time.

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02-15-2013, 06:41 AM
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Nowhere for Kronwall to turtle... that's all he's good for, those big physical checks only to turtle right after. You put him in his place he will not take liberties and therefore not be a non factor.
Are you talking about fighting? I dont think that is something for an international tournament. But if your forwards wanna play tough then by all means, just dont plan to get back after that couse we have Hedman, Edler and maybe even OEL there to play some serious Old Time Hockey with you. Maybe we can even have Adam Larsson as our seventh defender, or Douglas Murray.


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last 3 olympics tells the story. 2 of 3 olympics on small ice it is almost a given that Canada wins gold... Large ice is a different story lol.
I still think this is a bit of a fallacy. 2002 was played on Olympic sized ice (both the E-centre and the rink in Provost were retro-fitted for the games) and as we all know, two North American sides made it to the Gold medal game.

I think the International/NA ice advantage/disadvantage is simply over-inflated by the media.

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02-15-2013, 06:47 AM
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To add:

Over the last decade, Canada managed as many medals as Sweden and one fewer than Russia at the IHWC, despite having played only one tournament during that time on NHL sized ice.
And at the last two World Juniors. 2013 in Russia is won by the USA and 2012 in Alberta is won by Sweden. Can we really say that the size of the rink was the deciding factor?


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02-15-2013, 07:18 AM
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Canada's Z team would win it!

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02-15-2013, 07:23 AM
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Nope, no one else can. Just give Canada the gold now.

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02-15-2013, 07:23 AM
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Numbers are from last season and yes points is not all, etc, etc.
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Points are not everything to ones game.
I give you grade A in reading comprehension but you didn't add much in your response.

If the example says something it is that you have to go after other things than production to state that Canada got such better D in 2014 than what is stated so boldly in this thread. I give Canada an edge now and last year, but we'll see in Sochi.

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02-15-2013, 07:27 AM
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If there's one country you can not count out ever it's the USA.

In 2010 Canada was (on paper) better than anyone else.
A different bounce of the puck and the US could have won gold.

No one has improved more than the USA. Their world junior team destroyed Canada, actually humiliated Canada....and we had our best there.

What won it for them? Something that they've learned and we're still NOT recognizing........speed.

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02-15-2013, 07:29 AM
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Stamkos - Crosby - Giroux
Nash - Tavares - Eberle
Staal - Toews - Perry
Richards - Bergeron - Staal
Neal - Iginla

Doughty - Weber
Letang - Pietrangelo
Girardi - Staal
Seabrook - Keith

Price
Luongo
Fleury







Does any other nation even have a chance?



Not impressed by the goaltending at all and if you think Canada is going to dominate than your in for a big surprise. I guess you havent watched how hockey is evolving. Gone are the days of dominance by a single country.

Your confidence borders arrogance.

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02-15-2013, 08:30 AM
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Stamkos - Crosby - Giroux
Nash - Tavares - Eberle
Staal - Toews - Perry
Richards - Bergeron - Staal
Neal - Iginla

Doughty - Weber
Letang - Pietrangelo
Girardi - Staal
Seabrook - Keith

Price
Luongo
Fleury



Does any other nation even have a chance?
Yeah, very funny. Prepare to get eaten alive. If you think anybody is scared by your roster start looking outside NA.


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02-15-2013, 08:41 AM
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Canada will find a way to lose to Switzerland and flop in the medal rounds.

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Benn over Jo. Staal

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It's easily the best team on paper and probably the best team Canada has iced since '02. That being said, one bad game is the difference between gold and bronze. Two bad games can get you out of the medal picture entirely.

It'll largely be a crapshoot of who can gel the quickest. I love the Olympics, but they don't even touch the playoffs for determining the best team.

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02-15-2013, 09:17 AM
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Not sure if trolling, but yes.

Games aren't played on paper.

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Sweden will win. They will dominate on big ice.

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We should be in medal contention but I think a team like Russia or Sweden are also contenders in the Olympics.

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Doesn't even touch the 02 team.
Nothing ever will.

Greatest Canadian Olympic team ever.


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