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02-07-2013, 10:17 PM
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Man, this is where the coach needs to step in and guide these guys.

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Ribeiro said he didn't talk after #Caps' loss to Leafs "because it's the same thing every game."


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#Caps' Brouwer: "It seems like guys think this is going to turn around without any extra effort and that's not the case."

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02-07-2013, 10:17 PM
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Im so *** tired of hearing "WE WEREN'T READY TO PLAY"

I say this after every loss to my dad, they are gonna say this and they do.

IT'S YOUR ****** JOB! If i wasn't ready to work at my job I would of been fired already.

So should they. This team is a **** disgrace

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02-07-2013, 10:18 PM
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Oates is a potentially great coach. Pulling the goalie at the wrong time is totally irrelevant to the bigger picture. This mess is not his fault. The team has found a way to nosedive for three straight seasons.
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What makes you think Oates is a potentially great coach?

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02-07-2013, 10:18 PM
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He's not exactly bringing the heat himself.

He also said they didn't come ready to play, but they were leading after 1. So not sure how unready they were. It's that they don't bounce back after giving up a goal.
Just about to point that out too. They played actually a great period and were leading on the road.

Brouwer is no Cammalleri from the slot. Style wise or actually putting the puck in the net wise. He's pretty good at hitting the crest on the jersey.

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02-07-2013, 10:20 PM
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What makes you think Oates is a potentially great coach?
He's extremely smart and analytical and shows signs of being a very good teacher. He doesn't have the "just outwerk 'em" (no mocking meant) side of coaching down yet, probably, but he can get there enough.

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02-07-2013, 10:21 PM
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brouwer is turning into laich. all talk no walk
4th in goals, 6th in points, 1st in hits, 1st in takeaways, 4th in faceoff %...

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He's extremely smart and analytical and shows signs of being a very good teacher. He doesn't have the "just outwerk 'em" (no mocking meant) side of coaching down yet, probably, but he can get there enough.
He needs to learn how to lead these guys too. They're leaderless and I'm not sure Oates is doing enough to guide them right now. He might be an excellent teacher but there is more to being a head coach. We need to give him the entire season to see if he's got it though.

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02-07-2013, 10:23 PM
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He's extremely smart and analytical and shows signs of being a very good teacher. He doesn't have the "just outwerk 'em" (no mocking meant) side of coaching down yet, probably, but he can get there enough.
Sounds a lot like Gretzky.

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02-07-2013, 10:24 PM
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He's extremely smart and analytical and shows signs of being a very good teacher. He doesn't have the "just outwerk 'em" (no mocking meant) side of coaching down yet, probably, but he can get there enough.
hmmm...isn't that what they said about Cassidy and even Gretzky?

Yeah, Oates was a great player...but coach?

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02-07-2013, 10:28 PM
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I don't know if they said that about Cassidy. Isn't Gretzky considered kind of a moron in general at least? Gretzky had great instincts and hockey "sense" but was he able to translate that into analysis that could be taught?

I don't know...I am a little biased; I really like Oates, but I like him for those reasons.

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02-07-2013, 10:29 PM
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Sounds a lot like Gretzky.
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hmmm...isn't that what they said about Cassidy and even Gretzky?

Yeah, Oates was a great player...but coach?
Or Oates is just having a bad stretch. That seems to be a popular excuse around here for mediocre player prospects so why not coaches.

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02-07-2013, 10:31 PM
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Or Oates is just having a bad stretch. That seems to be a popular excuse around here for mediocre player prospects so why not coaches.
Maybe he just needs a change of scenery?

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I don't know if they said that about Cassidy. Isn't Gretzky considered kind of a moron in general at least? Gretzky had great instincts and hockey "sense" but was he able to translate that into analysis that could be taught?

I don't know...I am a little biased; I really like Oates, but I like him for those reasons.
Well, I just haven't seen anything from this team that indicates he has any coaching aptitude.

This season pretty much backs up the bad things NJ fans said about him.

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02-07-2013, 10:32 PM
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Or Oates is just having a bad stretch. That seems to be a popular excuse around here for mediocre player prospects so why not coaches.
So it's the players and the coach who are the problem? It's possible, but I think the simple explanation is that the little *****es who have pulled this in three consecutive seasons are to blame. The coach needs to lead, but there need to be leaders among the players too.

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02-07-2013, 10:32 PM
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Seriously who cares, let it play out. Fire after the season ends instead of hiring someone new who is going to try and make their mark by making a dumb trade.

The trade that makes most sense is Iginla. I don't foresee the Flames trading him for anything except an over payment.

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02-07-2013, 10:33 PM
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Well, I just haven't seen anything from this team that indicates he has any coaching aptitude.

This season pretty much backs up the bad things NJ fans said about him.
All I remember is their complaints about the PP. What else?

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02-07-2013, 10:33 PM
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brouwer is turning into laich. all talk no walk
I prefer "all ring, no bling"

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Why couldn't we get an experienced coach?

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All I remember is their complaints about the PP. What else?
Which is moot, when he was in Tampa in 09-10 Stamkos scored 23 powerplay goals...

Then was kinda meh after he was gone, this year its great though..

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All I remember is their complaints about the PP. What else?
Generally that he was inept, and they were glad to see him gone.

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02-07-2013, 10:38 PM
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So it's the players and the coach who are the problem? It's possible, but I think the simple explanation is that the little *****es who have pulled this in three consecutive seasons are to blame. The coach needs to lead, but there need to be leaders among the players too.
It's a poorly built team from coaches to players. Individually there are some good pieces especially valuewise but collectively they just don't work as a team because there is no real identity.

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Generally that he was inept, and they were glad to see him gone.
So, the PP is it then? That complaint couldn't be based on much more than his PP coaching, considering he was an assistant and that was his main/probably only visible responsibility.

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Weren't faceoffs a good attribute in Oates' coaching? Well we suck at that too, Hell we're worse than last year.

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So, the PP is it then? That complaint couldn't be based on much more than his PP coaching, considering he was an assistant and that was his main/probably only visible responsibility.
So he sucked at his main responsibility. Not seeing how that helps your case.

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It's a poorly built team from coaches to players. Individually there are some good pieces especially valuewise but collectively they just don't work as a team because there is no real identity.
It's not Oates' doing that the team has no identity though. I think he has a clear idea of what he wants his team to look like. The roster is a mess because McPhee has lacked such a clear idea himself.

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