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Actual Team Toughness?

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03-10-2013, 10:33 PM
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Actual Team Toughness?

Here's James Mirtle's blog post from January, ranking teams by average height, weight and age:

http://mirtle.blogspot.ca/2013/01/20...t-and-age.html

I thought average height and weight could be interesting to explore.

Obviously by themselves they're useless - can Brian McGrattan really be adding to a team's "average" size and height playing two minutes per game?

The best way to measure actual average team size would probably be to divide a player's weight and height by their TOI/60 to create weight shares and height shares, and then adding them up to form the average.

Still, not as useful as it could be. I think this data could be further manipulated to indicate actual team toughness, by using other statistics to attribute toughness values to players.

Can anyone think of a way to involve selected types of PIMs or hits or something, after calculating weight and height shares, to better indicate toughness? It's late and I'm not thinking good.

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Obviously subjective based on referees, game context, reputation etc

But would contextualizing roughing penalties not be a good inclusion?

It would be hard to seperate the Brian McGrattans from the Wayne Simmonds of the NHL.

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Maybe exclude players who play <9 minutes a game?

So you could come up with a weight of away hits (donno if this is available), (certain penalties like roughing, cross checking, and so on), height/weight, and weigh it against EV TOI

*Sorry not very stat savvy just spitballin.

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