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02-07-2013, 09:41 AM
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Clowe


Stalberg+

Both are going into UFA but both are signable guys. Sharks want speed, Hawks want toughness. It makes sense. I know the Hawks need to add, just not sure what.

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Clowe


Stalberg+

Both are going into UFA but both are signable guys. Sharks want speed, Hawks want toughness. It makes sense. I know the Hawks need to add, just not sure what.
I would be interested, remember we also have Sebastian in our system so it's always nice to have both brothers. Good odds re-signing would be a non-issue

I'm going to do something unprecedented here and say straight up is probably fair. They are both rentals and I don't think Chicago needs to add, maybe a 4-5 pick at most.

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I would be interested, remember we also have Sebastian in our system so it's always nice to have both brothers. Good odds re-signing would be a non-issue

I'm going to do something unprecedented here and say straight up is probably fair. They are both rentals and I don't think Chicago needs to add, maybe a 4-5 pick at most.
In a heartbeat! Clowe has been an anchor to any line he's been on. Stalbergs speed would be A+. Lets do this

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02-07-2013, 10:14 AM
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No way. Clowe is a top-6 forward, Stalberg is a 3rd liner. It makes our team worse in a must-win year.

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Yeah, he can play on a line with Arnott and Brunette.

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I actually think this is a pretty fair deal for both sides. I am a little leery about losing Stalberg's speed, but it is no secret that we need to get tougher. Worst case scenario (if Clowe sucks as bad as shark fans seem to think he does) we bump him down to the 4th line and bring up Jimmy Hayes to replace Stalberg. I don't see much downside from a Chicago perspective.

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02-07-2013, 10:55 AM
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Clowe struggled at times last year and has been bad this year from what I have seen of Sharks

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No way. Clowe is a top-6 forward, Stalberg is a 3rd liner. It makes our team worse in a must-win year.


Not anymore.

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If he is bringing the team down, put him on the 4th line like Chelios said. He still would have a lot of worth on the PP and as a tough guy. It's a tough descision. Both players are valuable in different ways.

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During the off-season, most Chicago fans were fine with Stalberg and Morin for Clowe. Is that still on the table?

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During the off-season, most Chicago fans were fine with Stalberg and Morin for Clowe. Is that still on the table?
No, that would be too much. The Hawks are much better without slow players dragging them down. The only reason I would do it is because I think we can hide Clowe in the bottom 6 and use him for the things he does well (toughness, PP).

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No way. Clowe is a top-6 forward, Stalberg is a 3rd liner. It makes our team worse in a must-win year.
Stalberg put up 43 points in 79 games last season playing mostly on the 1st line. This season he is on pace for about the same (over a full season) playing on the 3rd line. Offensively he is a 2nd line talent.

Clowe fits the Hawks need for more size and could fit in well on any of our lines. I'd even add a 4th to make the deal happen.

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Clowe struggled at times last year and has been bad this year from what I have seen of Sharks

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Wow, never thought I would see this from you!

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02-07-2013, 12:12 PM
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Not anymore.
Because of a bad 10 games (he spent mostly in the penalty box)?

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02-07-2013, 12:14 PM
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I'd do this if you add the 4th.

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No way. Clowe is a top-6 forward, Stalberg is a 3rd liner. It makes our team worse in a must-win year.
Based on Clowe's play this year and last year, he's not a top 6 player anymore. I'm willing to tolerate Clowe's slow start for now because of the lack of training camp, but if he still sucks by the deadline I'd definitely do this.

Clowe hasn't been winning puck battles in the corners nearly as much, and has been a turnover machine when he's not in the box.

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Clowe has 5 points in 10 games while playing terribly (for Ryane Clowe's standards) and that doesn't include the goal he scored vs Edmonton that was wrongly taken away. Selling low on him would be a dumb move.

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Because of a bad 10 games (he spent mostly in the penalty box)?

There was a time when Clowe was great a power forward so who went to the dirty areas and was excellent on the boards, but early on last season (and even a little bit the season before), he started to morph into a wannabe Joe Thornton but without the playmaking skills, puck possession ability, or defensive awareness. He's been a total disaster early on this season (if Todd wasn't so stubborn he would have moved him to the 3rd or 4th line by now), but his problems extend well beyond a 10-game stretch.

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02-07-2013, 12:51 PM
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Clowe has 5 points in 10 games while playing terribly (for Ryane Clowe's standards) and that doesn't include the goal he scored vs Edmonton that was wrongly taken away.
It wasn't really wrongly taken away. Dubnyk didn't play it as aggressively because he heard the whistle. Clowe also fumbled the puck for like 3 seconds, an Edmonton forward would have backchecked it off if they didn't hear the whistle.

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02-07-2013, 02:46 PM
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-Clowe won't be traded.
-Clowe will sign a cap friendly deal ths summer.
-Clowe will retire a Shark after moving his way down to the 4th line.
-Clowe will be hired into Sharks management just like DW, Marchment, and Ricci.

Book it.

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02-07-2013, 02:48 PM
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Honestly I think Clowe just needs a change of scenery. I suspect he won't re-sign here even if it's offered. I doubt many will agree, but that's my honest guess.

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have to say that I'm not interested in Clowe... the player I'd want from the Sharks is Wingles

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Clowe has 5 points in 10 games while playing terribly (for Ryane Clowe's standards) and that doesn't include the goal he scored vs Edmonton that was wrongly taken away. Selling low on him would be a dumb move.
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cmon now. the guy has shown he can be better and is still producing okay numbers.

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If you can add a 4th or something we have a deal.

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If you can add a 4th or something we have a deal.
Make it two 7th rounders instead

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I'd rather have a 2nd round pick than Stalberg.

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