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03-13-2013, 02:41 PM
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Yeah, the Lions' offense would be really good if Stafford and Bush play like top-two picks. That has never happened yet and will continue to not be seen.

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03-13-2013, 02:43 PM
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So are we getting another tight end then?

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03-13-2013, 03:00 PM
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Ya move those 2nd round picks up 2 spots. How about coming away with

34 - Kyle Long
50 - Kevin Minter/Arthur Brown
61 - Barrett Jones
95 - WR or TE
I would love to get Barret Jones at 61, since there is 0 chance he is still around though it won't happen.

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03-13-2013, 03:04 PM
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I'm not going to say he is Ryan Kalil good, but I think that is Jones' upside as a center. He is going to be a steal as a 2nd round pick.

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03-13-2013, 03:22 PM
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They were 17th in points per game last year. A 28 year old Reggie Bush isn't going to make it unstoppable, especially if they really make him the feature RB as reports have said.
Bush as receiver out of backfield though is very dangerous element they add to there pass attack now

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03-13-2013, 03:24 PM
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Bush as receiver out of backfield though is very dangerous element they add to there pass attack now
Too many other holes in that team for an addition of Bush to scare me.

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03-13-2013, 03:26 PM
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Too many other holes in that team for an addition of Bush to scare me.
Well that is same thing people say about Bears

Bears have a ton of holes and a aging D

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03-13-2013, 03:28 PM
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Bush as receiver out of backfield though is very dangerous element they add to there pass attack now
While I get what you are saying, I think the reality is that Reggie Bush has been over-rated by everyone since his USC days. He was supposed to be this deadly threat out of the backfield for the Saints. Was he? Well they let him walked, signed Darren Sproles, and Sproles showed everyone what a REAL threat out of the backfield is like on that team. I won't really comment on his days in Miami since that team was full of issues, and they tried to make him more of a feature back than a receiving back.

Still, I don't think he is the dangerous weapon everyone thinks he is. He wasn't back then when he was young. He certainly isn't now when he's 28. He's an improvement over Javid Best because he will actually see the field a few games more per year, and over Leshoure since he isn't a receiving threat at all, but I don't thin the NFC North needs to be quaking in their boots over this signing.

Besides, I expect to see side-armed Matt Stafford one-hopping a few passes to him anyway.

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03-13-2013, 03:29 PM
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Too many other holes in that team for an addition of Bush to scare me.
Eh, all teams have holes. I'm not sure that's a reason to dismiss that signing and the Lions. There are plenty of legit reasons to not worry about Reggie Bush or the Lions this next year.

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03-13-2013, 03:33 PM
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The Packers are in contract talks with Steven Jackson. Adam Schefter tweeted we got him on a three-year deal, but he pulled the tweet down. My guess is that he jumped the gun and that the Packers and Jackson's party are in the latter stages of contract talks. That'd be a great pickup on the cheap. He doesn't have to get tons of touches. Due to that, I think he will be an effective force.

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03-13-2013, 03:34 PM
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The Packers are in contract talks with Steven Jackson. Adam Schefter tweeted we got him on a three-year deal, but he pulled the tweet down. My guess is that he jumped the gun and that the Packers and Jackson's party are in the latter stages of contract talks. That'd be a great pickup on the cheap. He doesn't have to get tons of touches. Due to that, I think he will be an effective force.
Yeah, I always thought he'd be a good fit there and was surprised they didn't deal for him but I guess the Rams were being dumb and demanding too much for a guy they knew was gone after the season.

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03-13-2013, 03:36 PM
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Yeah, I always thought he'd be a good fit there and was surprised they didn't deal for him but I guess the Rams were being dumb and demanding too much for a guy they knew was gone after the season.
Yeah, Green Bay's offense with a Jackson/Harris tandem actually has a respectable run game.

With that said, they need their defense to play at least average if they have Super Bowl aspirations. That is easily a top-three offense, but you can't give up 579 yards and add a running back and hope that changes your fortunes. I'm thinking they take Elam from Florida.

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03-13-2013, 03:45 PM
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I would love to get Barret Jones at 61, since there is 0 chance he is still around though it won't happen.
I've seen him consistently listed as a 2nd round pick. He probably won't last until the end of the 2nd round, but teams may get scared off by his injury.

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03-13-2013, 03:49 PM
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If he is there at 50, we have to take him.

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03-13-2013, 03:55 PM
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If he is there at 50, we have to take him.
I'd be happy with

20. Ogletree 50. Jones (assuming Kyle Long is gone)

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20. Fluker/Watson/Warmack/Cooper 50. Minter/Brown

I know they have lots of options but I really think they need to go OL/LB in some combination in the first two rounds.

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03-13-2013, 04:02 PM
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I'd be happy with

20. Ogletree 50. Jones (assuming Kyle Long is gone)

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20. Fluker/Watson/Warmack/Cooper 50. Minter/Brown

I know they have lots of options but I really think they need to go OL/LB in some combination in the first two rounds.
After signing Bushrod, I tend to agree. I want one O-lineman with one of the picks. As for the other, yes, LB is the biggest need and there are guys scattered around where we will pick. However, if they want to put more into the offense and get a guy like Austin, I will not object. I think it will come down to who slips but we are in a great position to go BPA after these two signings.

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03-13-2013, 04:02 PM
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I'd be happy with

20. Ogletree 50. Jones (assuming Kyle Long is gone)

or

20. Fluker/Watson/Warmack/Cooper 50. Minter/Brown

I know they have lots of options but I really think they need to go OL/LB in some combination in the first two rounds.
Warmack and Brown would make me cry in joy.

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03-13-2013, 04:06 PM
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After signing Bushrod, I tend to agree. I want one O-lineman with one of the picks. As for the other, yes, LB is the biggest need and there are guys scattered around where we will pick. However, if they want to put more into the offense and get a guy like Austin, I will not object. I think it will come down to who slips but we are in a great position to go BPA after these two signings.
I keep vaccilating on Austin. I really, really like him but think you can probably get a speed guy in the later rounds. They have a lot of money put in Bennet, Jeffrey, and Marshall, not sure if you want to put 1st round pick money in another wide receiver. I wouldn't cry if they pick Austin, but I think linebacker and line are bigger needs and harder to fill.

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Warmack and Brown would make me cry in joy.
2 guards haven't gone in the top 20 in over 30 years. Just something to keep in mind. Cooper or Warmack may very well be there. Especially if teams panic and 2 or 3 QB's go in the top 20.

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03-13-2013, 04:09 PM
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2 guards haven't gone in the top 20 in over 30 years. Just something to keep in mind. Cooper or Warmack may very well be there. Especially if teams panic and 2 or 3 QB's go in the top 20.
Yeah, and the Bills release of Fitzpatrick increases those odds.

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2 guards haven't gone in the top 20 in over 30 years. Just something to keep in mind. Cooper or Warmack may very well be there. Especially if teams panic and 2 or 3 QB's go in the top 20.
Hopefully Arizona takes Smith and Buffalo takes Nassib. That would really work in our favor.

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03-13-2013, 04:12 PM
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Yeah, and the Bills release of Fitzpatrick increases those odds.
It also helps that the Titans signed Levitre. They were always mocked as taking one of the top guards. Rams always mocked as taking a tackle so if they sign Long, maybe they use that pick somewhere else.

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I'd be happy with

20. Ogletree 50. Jones (assuming Kyle Long is gone)

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20. Fluker/Watson/Warmack/Cooper 50. Minter/Brown

I know they have lots of options but I really think they need to go OL/LB in some combination in the first two rounds.
I love Ogletree, but he is gone in the top 10 most likely and isn't there at 20 for sure. He is the best ILB in the draft.

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03-13-2013, 04:16 PM
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I love Ogletree, but he is gone in the top 10 most likely and isn't there at 20 for sure. He is the best ILB in the draft.
Top 10? I've never seen him there.

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I love Ogletree, but he is gone in the top 10 most likely and isn't there at 20 for sure. He is the best ILB in the draft.
I haven't seen a single mock that has him going in the top 15. NFL.com has 4 mocks and have him going 19, 19, 19, 28. Walter Football has 2 mocks with him going at 22 and 20.

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