we cant make knee jerk signings, firing or trades. if a team does that they end up like the leafs. IMO the best way is to get a good core of good players that by themselves could could get in the playoffs, then you make a couple big trades or signings to put you over the top.
we cant make knee jerk signings, firing or trades. if a team does that they end up like the leafs. IMO the best way is to get a good core of good players that by themselves could could get in the playoffs, then you make a couple big trades or signings to put you over the top.
Please stop making so much sense that is frowned upon on this forum
we cant make knee jerk signings, firing or trades. if a team does that they end up like the leafs. IMO the best way is to get a good core of good players that by themselves could could get in the playoffs, then you make a couple big trades or signings to put you over the top.
No we don't want that. I also don't want to see mediocrity accepted or encouraged by signing Noel to an extension ala Edmonton. Noel is signed through 13-14. If he has not made playoffs by then, time to move on.
I'm off the opinion that every GM should get at least 2 coachs. Ie, don't burn the GM if his first coach falls flat. So if the Jets have not made the playoffs by the end of 13-14, do not re-sign Noel but Chevy still has more time. But in reality, based on the makeup of this team, not much time at all. But that's still a ways off. Have to see how the rest of this season + next go.
All the Stanley Cup champion teams spent much less time in this "black hole" region of 9-12 in the conference than Winnipeg/Atlanta already...already we are verging on being stuck in a bad area. By the end of 13-14 without playoffs and we may need to rebuild again with a year or two at the bottom since we are not making the first steps into playoffs with this core. But that's hypothetical and way off in the future.
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Fire noel!!!
The team is progressively getting worse. Stop preaching managing games. It's time to get on our horse and take the game to our opponents. Every time we are in a situation where we are trying to "manage" the game we look awful!!! For example, the start of Pittsburgh game, the end of leafs game, the third period of islanders, the start of Tampa, the list goes on. We've played well when we are going full speed ahead, that's what Noel should be preaching! Not this managing the game bs. Live by the sword die by the sword, jets have enough talent to win now if it wasn't for Noel trying to turn it into a chess game. Don't even get me started on perry pearn and Charlie huddy! The coaching staff is holding the team back and it's obvious!
Let me clarify a little. I have no problem with the systems/tactics, it's the way the message is being portrayed. I feel like the message may be coming across wrong to the players. There is nothing wrong with protecting a lead but I feel the coach does not instill passion in his players to do so. Get the boys pumped to get the puck deep and keep it there. The team looks confused! Give them direction and encourage hard work! When a team is working hard they make the right decisions. I just think with a little less emphasis on "managing" and a little more emphasis on ass kicking we'd be more successful.
I was a "BIG" fan of Macho last season and was looking forward to watching him with the Jets this year. the problem is there was a lockout and for whatever reason by all accounts he didn't show up this year in St John's right from the beginning??? Now maybe it's because he's really not that good and last season was a "one off" but i doubt it. maybe it's because he had his heart set on the NHL and mentally couldn't get there by starting out in the AHL. maybe it's because he was fighting with his coach, maybe it's because he was feeling sorry for himself??? I have no idea what the reason is but before NHL training camp started it appeared he was in a funk?
Spencer had one thing to do this season and that is show up and pick up where he left off last year and kick the door down. For whatever reason he didn't get it done. had he done that and been passed over i would have been really pi55ed. I Like the guy but he is not nearly talented enough to not bring the best version of himself to the rink every day......being an older prospect he doesn't have the luxury of inconsistent effort levels. this year he has played 45 games he has 20 points and is a team leading -23
I have questioned some moves by TNSE when it comes to AHL call ups but this one I am at peace with, you don't pout your way into the NHL.....this is on Spencer and maybe it's time for him to move on.
I was a "BIG" fan of Macho last season and was looking forward to watching him with the Jets this year. the problem is there was a lockout and for whatever reason by all accounts he didn't show up this year in St John's right from the beginning??? Now maybe it's because he's really not that good and last season was a "one off" but i doubt it. maybe it's because he had his heart set on the NHL and mentally couldn't get there by starting out in the AHL. maybe it's because he was fighting with his coach, maybe it's because he was feeling sorry for himself??? I have no idea what the reason is but before NHL training camp started it appeared he was in a funk?
Spencer had one thing to do this season and that is show up and pick up where he left off last year and kick the door down. For whatever reason he didn't get it done. had he done that and been passed over i would have been really pi55ed. I Like the guy but he is not nearly talented enough to not bring the best version of himself to the rink every day......being an older prospect he doesn't have the luxury of inconsistent effort levels. this year he has played 45 games he has 20 points and is a team leading -23
I have questioned some moves by TNSE when it comes to AHL call ups but this one I am at peace with, you don't pout your way into the NHL.....this is on Spencer and maybe it's time for him to move on.
I agree 100%. A player in his position needs to knock the door down. If he was playing up to an NHL level like Redmond was he would have got a chance. I refuse to feel sorry for him.
I too was very impressed with Machacek when he came up last season and played with that compelling combination of energy, unexpected skill and luck. It is players like him who were affected most adversely by that ridiculous lockout, because of their short window of opportunity to play in the NHL.
I have no idea what his problem is this year, but it is a little unfair to assume that a guy who has made it this far largely on grit is a 'crybaby'. People have physical and mental health issues that we will never know about. In any case, it's a shame to see someone who worked so hard and was so close, fall so quickly.
I too was very impressed with Machacek when he came up last season and played with that compelling combination of energy, unexpected skill and luck. It is players like him who were affected most adversely by that ridiculous lockout, because of their short window of opportunity to play in the NHL.
I have no idea what his problem is this year, but it is a little unfair to assume that a guy who has made it this far largely on grit is a 'crybaby'. People have physical and mental health issues that we will never know about. In any case, it's a shame to see someone who worked so hard and was so close, fall so quickly.
By all accounts our number 1 and 3 d-men have been out. Very few teams will look good when those guys are out. I fully expect us to be over .500 in March.
People expected too much too quickly. We are an 8-10 place team this year. Maybe next year with a year extra experience plus Scheifele/Lowry/Trouba we might have that push over the edge.
I'd be pissed too if the Jets treated me the way he has been treated here. 100% he does not re-sn with the Jets, he will reject any QO unless it is one-way and the Jets wouldn't give that to him last year, 0% chance they give him one this off-season. I hope the Jets don't even qualify him, show they are a classy organization and let him find another team that might give him the chance he has earned.
Sorry but Spencer has earned nothing, he's a pretty marginal prospect. Given that he passed through waivers and has played atrocious this year do you honestly think anyone is going to offer him an NHL deal next year? If is sulking and trying to play his way out of the organization then it points to a lack of professionalism on his part and one that may cost him an oppertunitu in the summer.
Fire noel!!!
The team is progressively getting worse. Stop preaching managing games. It's time to get on our horse and take the game to our opponents. Every time we are in a situation where we are trying to "manage" the game we look awful!!! For example, the start of Pittsburgh game, the end of leafs game, the third period of islanders, the start of Tampa, the list goes on. We've played well when we are going full speed ahead, that's what Noel should be preaching! Not this managing the game bs. Live by the sword die by the sword, jets have enough talent to win now if it wasn't for Noel trying to turn it into a chess game. Don't even get me started on perry pearn and Charlie huddy! The coaching staff is holding the team back and it's obvious!
When you say the team is getting progressively worse it completely ignores the fact that the team is getting progressively better.
A great goalie makes a great coach, and vice-versa... just sayin'.
Goalies are perhaps the hardest position to coach, and perhaps the most influential on how a coach handles the rest of the team. If a goalie is shaky, the coach has to deal with uncertain players and often coming from behind. A rock solid goalie allows a completely different approach to coaching.
As much as I don't like to admit it, Pavelec still creates uncertainty in goal, and I think that effects Noel's coaching approach, and future job security.
Firing Noel likely will not happen this year. I can't imagine Chevy giving him that short of a leash. HOWEVER, when the Jets miss the playoffs this year and start off slow next year, he will have a month or two to correct the problem or he's gone. I'll predict November, 2013.
Chevy is also the problem here. Noel can't coach worth a dittle, don't get me wrong. But using waiver wire pickups to advance a team as well as drafting underclassmen tells me he's got a 5 year window to get to the playoffs and fill the AHL cupboards.
There is no urgency to get to the playoffs. Hold on tight Jets fans, it's going to be a rough ride for a while. Fuelled by Passion should be changed to Fuelled by Patience.
When TNSE bought the Thrashers they knew they were buying a team with some very talented players. They also knew they were buying a team with a culture of losing and a pretty empty cupboard as far as prospects went. They also knew that an 180 through UFA signings would be unlikely.
Last season the Jets overachieved for the majority of the season. So far this season it seems as though they are not building on that as effectively as fans may have hoped, but they have also had significant injuries to key players.
I think Noel has a long leash with management until management actually likes the roster he as assembled. Like, realistically, this is still a team that had to resign Wellwood to fill a top 6/9 role. Teams that are confident of making the playoffs aren't doing stuff like that.
Gasp,there,i said it!!!!!!
