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02-17-2013, 08:16 PM
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Here's hoping we can trade surplus D and Mac for picks then package to move into top 10
I hope we can draft either Mohanan or Lindholm.

Both have fallen a bit lately so hopefully it would not be to expensive to trade up.

1) Seth Jones, b, Portland (WHL)
2) Valeij Nitjusjkin, fw, Tjeljabinsk (KHL)
3) Nathan MacKinnon, fw, Halifax (QMJHL)
4) Jonathan Drouin, fw, Halifax (QMJHL)
5) Darnell Nurse, b, Sault Ste. Marie (OHL)
6) Nikita Zadorov, b, London (OHL)
7) Aleksander Barkov, fw, Tappara (Fin)
8) Sean Monahan, fw, Ottawa (OHL)
9) Elias Lindholm, fw, Brynäs

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11-20 will most likely be our range, there is a great group of players there, so we should be in great shape.
Ernie, have you seen much of Kerby Rychel? Is he someone you'd like the Leafs to take in the 15 - 20 range (if we fall there).

Seems like a gritty hard working kid that would fit right in with the Burke draftees. I think you can't have enough gritty forwards with a scoring touch.

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02-17-2013, 08:18 PM
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Reading some of the ideas about ROR in the trade thread has me plenty worried.


Oh a typical HFboards tangent.

Spend 5 pages on some insignificant point that really has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. I occassionally end up with a PM from a mod after getting involved in those.
Me too, so let's just talk about the prospects, and I don't get Nurse at #5, ironically where Mckeens had Schenn. Above Barkov?

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Anyone have an idea as to who they rank 11-20 (our probably draft range)?
From looking at that we really need to start acquiring the picks we will need to trade up in the draft.

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02-17-2013, 08:21 PM
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Ernie, have you seen much of Kerby Rychel? Is he someone you'd like the Leafs to take in the 15 - 20 range (if we fall there).

Seems like a gritty hard working kid that would fit right in with the Burke draftees. I think you can't have enough gritty forwards with a scoring touch.
I'm not dead-set against it, but I'd rather not draft him.

Here in Windsor, Kerby has developed a sense of entitlement that came with his daddy running the team. I like his style of player, a lot, but I would take forwards like Mantha or Erne to play the wings, with higher upside, and a bit of grit to their games as well.

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02-17-2013, 08:24 PM
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I hope we can draft either Mohanan or Lindholm.

Both have fallen a bit lately so hopefully it would not be to expensive to trade up.

1) Seth Jones, b, Portland (WHL)
2) Valeij Nitjusjkin, fw, Tjeljabinsk (KHL)
3) Nathan MacKinnon, fw, Halifax (QMJHL)
4) Jonathan Drouin, fw, Halifax (QMJHL)
5) Darnell Nurse, b, Sault Ste. Marie (OHL)
6) Nikita Zadorov, b, London (OHL)
7) Aleksander Barkov, fw, Tappara (Fin)
8) Sean Monahan, fw, Ottawa (OHL)
9) Elias Lindholm, fw, Brynäs
The way this season is going we might miss Pulock now nevemind Monahan. If this is the case I have my eyes on Bailey and Hartman, Hartman is much more appealing than Rychel or Lazar IMO. I think this kid is special in the character dept, and we all know by now, Dave Morrison loves character players. Tab him if we keep the playoff play up.

Hartman, love this kid.

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02-17-2013, 08:28 PM
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This is a year we should trade up to get Monahan..

our pick plus acquired picks from D surplus traded and Mac dealt

or

our pick plus a Finn/Percy

Then we get our #1C without dealing a lot of players from core..

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I'm not dead-set against it, but I'd rather not draft him.

Here in Windsor, Kerby has developed a sense of entitlement that came with his daddy running the team. I like his style of player, a lot, but I would take forwards like Mantha or Erne to play the wings, with higher upside, and a bit of grit to their games as well.
Since you get to see Windsor play all the time, what was up with Ebert going last in 2012 draft? Wasn't he a highly touted prospect at one point?

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Max Domi is an interesting pick as well.

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This is a year we should trade up to get Monahan..

our pick plus acquired picks from D surplus traded and Mac dealt

or

our pick plus a Finn/Percy

Then we get our #1C without dealing a lot of players from core..
Monahan is far from a sure thing, #1 center. If you're going to trade up for a #1 guy, why not just do what it takes and get Barkov?

There will be great players inthe 11-20 range. I feel the organization won't have that urgent need to deal up, when there will be solid players in our range, without spending the assets.

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02-17-2013, 08:34 PM
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Since you get to see Windsor play all the time, what was up with Ebert going last in 2012 draft? Wasn't he a highly touted prospect at one point?
Doesn't like to work hard on or off the ice, doesn't like listening to his coaches, and believed his own hype. He's garbage this year too.


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Good depth in this draft, would add a first even in late in the 1st rd would be a good idea,

Dickinson is another, Klazy my pal asked me to ask about him, I did briefly.

Was told wasn't sold on him, will have to see more to get a read. That was a week ago.

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Max Domi is an interesting pick as well.
I think his size may see him slip into the 20's. seems like a potential Detroit or New Jersey take

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02-17-2013, 08:42 PM
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Is not one of the Leafs issues we have quanity of prospects but lack true blue chip elite players outside of Rielly...

Getting a Barkov might be worth putting a big package together

our first + another first + Percy/Finn or even more might be worth it

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Is not one of the Leafs issues we have quanity of prospects but lack true blue chip elite players outside of Rielly...

Getting a Barkov might be worth putting a big package together

our first + another first + Percy/Finn or even more might be worth it
Problem is you need to be in range, it's not realistic to move up 10 spots, without trading a bluechip player. Throwing in a few pieces rarely works, well it doesn't work. You want to really move up teams are likely going to ask for Rielly, and Nonis will not do that.

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Maybe Gardner goes with our first for a shot at Barkov, would that be a deal we could make?

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Yup. It's official. I cannot deny the similarity anymore.

Interactif, do you know who Skip Bayless is?
I didn't but I laughed when I wiki'd him.

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Maybe Gardner goes with our first for a shot at Barkov, would that be a deal we could make?
I would move up to get Monahan though, this kid does everything well, and his game is made for the NHL and if the Leafs continue under RC and perhaps DE.

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Plus you can bet your bottom dollar Morrison likes Monahan too, future captain material here.

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Monahan would be attainable with a good package thats not damaging to core..

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Maybe Gardner goes with our first for a shot at Barkov, would that be a deal we could make?
yes if you're an idiot.

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There wasn't and it wasn't a full article.

I didn't follow the draft closely enough in 2008 to say what Schenn was like in his draft year.

When I've watched Nurse, I've seen a very mobile dman that can rush the puck up the ice while Schenn is much better when he makes the simple play and doesn't try anything too fancy. Nurse's offensive potential is much higher than Schenn's as well, imo. I will agree that Nurse sometimes makes questionable decision's with the puck.
this is pretty much correct. Nurse does need to work on his decision making, thats the similarites between him and schenn...

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Is not one of the Leafs issues we have quanity of prospects but lack true blue chip elite players outside of Rielly...

Getting a Barkov might be worth putting a big package together

our first + another first + Percy/Finn or even more might be worth it
Right Idea.
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Problem is you need to be in range, it's not realistic to move up 10 spots, without trading a bluechip player. Throwing in a few pieces rarely works, well it doesn't work. You want to really move up teams are likely going to ask for Rielly, and Nonis will not do that.
We have to offer something very good for a team to give up...Let's Say we target the 2nd overall pick. I think we are the only team in the league that passes on Seth Jones at #1. So we should have our choice of Centers at #2.

Means a lot of moves to get the pieces to do it. The better we finish the harder it will be to do.
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Maybe Gardner goes with our first for a shot at Barkov, would that be a deal we could make?
Gardiner stays. No matter what. His value is low until he comes back healthy and shows he is not just the same but still progressing.
But basically only Gards and Rielly are off limits.
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I would move up to get Monahan though, this kid does everything well, and his game is made for the NHL and if the Leafs continue under RC and perhaps DE.
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Plus you can bet your bottom dollar Morrison likes Monahan too, future captain material here.
If Monahan isn't a surefire #1C as was mentioned above, then we need to look past him higher up the draft.

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I didn't but I laughed when I wiki'd him.
I don't get it. You a writer who works with a no talent hack or something?

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As much as it is great to see this team do well, I really do hope we end up with a high pick in this shortened season, as it would do wonders for this team.

If we get a high pick this season, and solidify our core, we can start cheering for this team as early as next season.

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yes if you're an idiot.
THis WAS a civilized discussion.

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