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View Poll Results: Who is the greatest goalie in franchise history?
Luongo 105 86.78%
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06-24-2013, 04:47 PM
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Luongo vs McLean

Who is the greatest goalie in franchise history?

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06-24-2013, 04:49 PM
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Honorable mention: Richard Brodeur.

He did as much with less.


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06-24-2013, 04:50 PM
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Luongo.

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06-24-2013, 04:54 PM
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McLean.

Got the Canucks to within 1 goal of a Cup.

Greatest save in Canucks playoff history.

2 time Vezina finalist.

2 time All-star.

Pretty much a slam dunk.

Also, if you really believe that then you are easier to get riled up then the Canucks new HC.

It's clearly Luongo but McLean gets really under-appreciated.

3rd spot - Dan "Beachball" Cloutier or Kevin "Goalie of the Future" Weekes

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06-24-2013, 04:55 PM
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i love cap'n kirk, but this is a ridiculous question
Luongo is arguably the best player this franchise has ever seen, let alone goalie

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06-24-2013, 04:56 PM
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Where's the Backup Bob option?

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Luongo and it isn't even close. McLean had some good streaks but was a pretty avg goalie with avg numbers. Luongo is with out question the best goalie in franchise history.

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06-24-2013, 05:01 PM
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Where's the Backup Bob option?
You missed out on seeing Gary Smith drop kicking the puck down the ice.

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I voted McLean. My reasons are in here.

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06-24-2013, 05:09 PM
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I voted McLean. My reasons are in here.
Hah. I was looking for that thread. Serves me right for typing "goalie" instead of "goalies" in the search feature.

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You missed out on seeing Gary Smith drop kicking the puck down the ice.
Had to wiki this. Was not disappointed with the results.

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06-24-2013, 05:14 PM
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No comparison really. Here's where McLean finished in sv% among goalies who got 35+ starts in each year:

87-88: 19th (of 25)
88-89: 6th (of 30)
89-90: 18th (of 28)
90-91: 26th (of 27)
91-92: 5th (of 23)
92-93: 16th (of 29)
93-94: 25th (of 31)
94-95: 11th (of 19)
95-96: 34th (of 34)
96-97: 31st (of 33)

He only finished in the top half twice in his entire career. Luongo has been in the top half every single year of his career save for this shortened season where he didn't even meet the 35+ game threshold if you pro-rate it for a 48 game season.

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06-24-2013, 05:16 PM
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Not gonna lie, if McLean was the goalie for Vancouver in 09 or 10, the Canucks may have won a cup.

Captain Kirk would never sink as low as Luongo in either Chicago series.......

Oh snap.

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Don't see how the anyone could not vote for Luongo, one playoff run is't enough to change my mind.

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Not gonna lie, if McLean was the goalie for Vancouver in 09 or 10, the Canucks may have won a cup.

Captain Kirk would never sink as low as Luongo in either Chicago series.......

Oh snap.
Or maybe we don't even make the playoffs?

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Luongo

McLean was an average at best starter who went on a hot streak during the '94 playoffs. Very over-rated.

Luongo's numbers have been consistent for over a decade and comparable to Brodeur's. Had he played on a team consistently of the caliber of the late 90's/early '00's Devils (good over multiple seasons, not just one), he would have his cup ring by now.

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There is no opinion on this.

Only fact.

Anyone who didn't say Luongo is simply mistaken.

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Luongo, even though my avatar says otherwise.

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Honorable mention: Richard Brodeur.

He did as much with less.

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Nostalgia versus reality. Luongo is/was the better goaltender.

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06-24-2013, 07:19 PM
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I have McLean's signed Hespeler stick hanging on my wall as we speak - he's not only my favourite Canuck, but he's my favourite athlete of all time.

Luongo should win this poll unanimously.

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06-24-2013, 07:30 PM
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McLean's run in 1994 will always be seen as one of the great 'never say die' moments in the franchise, but it's quite obviously Luongo.

I still remember at Rogers Arena during training camp in 2011, at the team store a kid asked his dad who McLean was. His response? "The greatest Canucks goalie of all-time. Luongo can never be what McLean was." Poor kid.

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Luongo is easily the best goalie we've ever had.

McLean had the best Cup run of any goalie we've ever had. His game 1 performance in NY is still one the greatest goaltending performances I've ever seen.

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It all depends on one's definition of greatness, which is a very subjective term.

If it were based on statistics/ regular seasons alone, it would be Luongo by a country mile. Greatness isn't defined by statistics alone, though, it is often defined by only a few games or even moments.

- Luongo wins best series for his performance vs Dallas

- McLean wins best game vs NYR in '94 (I can't remember which one, maybe #1 as noted above. The one where he made 50 saves or whatever. It being the Finals gives it greater weight. Plus you have to consider the higher scoring era and the normal sized equipment.)

- McLean wins best save for The Save. That's a career defining moment right there.

- McLean gets extra credit for being one of the last of the stand-up goaltenders. It's like being the last templar or knight of the round table.

- Luongo gets huge demerits for being the weakest link on a contenting team in each of 2009, 2010, and 2011.

Overall, McLean was a good goalie who had moments of greatness at the most important points in his career.

Luongo was a great goalie who had colossal collapses when it mattered the most. In the end it's those select moments that create one's legacy.

In some ways, Luongo is the embodiment of this franchise. So much potential, so many close calls, but when it counts most, abject and utter failure.


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- Luongo gets huge demerits for being the weakest link on a contenting team in each of 2009, 2010, and 2011.
What? I find that very arguable. 2010 is pretty clear and away as he was the most disappointing player there, but that team was horrible defensively and on the PK to be fair.

I can hardly call him the weakest link in either 2009 or 2011. He was a HUGE reason we even got to where we did in those seasons.

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