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02-09-2013, 01:30 PM
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Taylor Hall

Hes the least talented of the 4 and Yakupov can make Hall look like he has hands of stone at times. What kind of return would he get if the Oilers move him in say the next couple years? We all know the Oilers wont be able to afford all 4, id say past 3 seasons at the most.

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02-09-2013, 01:33 PM
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The Oilers would need one of the three if they are going to trade Taylor Hall.



1)Top defenseman

2)Talented-big centreman

3)Top power-forward

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Hes the least talented of the 4 and Yakupov can make Hall look like he has hands of stone at times. What kind of return would he get if the Oilers move him in say the next couple years? We all know the Oilers wont be able to afford all 4, id say past 3 seasons at the most.
I rarely catch Oiler games.

How would you rank their top forwards?

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Hes the least talented of the 4 and Yakupov can make Hall look like he has hands of stone at times. What kind of return would he get if the Oilers move him in say the next couple years? We all know the Oilers wont be able to afford all 4, id say past 3 seasons at the most.
How do you know that? If we were to trade him, expect an emperor's ransom.

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I rarely catch Oiler games.

How would you rank their top forwards?
Right now

Eberle
RNH
Hall
yakupov

But its just the matter of time before Yakupov surpasses Hall. Plus he plays with 2 scrubs and doesnt get top ice like Hall does, so he wont put up great numbers. Yakupov is a much more skilled dynamic player.

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Hes the least talented of the 4 and Yakupov can make Hall look like he has hands of stone at times. What kind of return would he get if the Oilers move him in say the next couple years? We all know the Oilers wont be able to afford all 4, id say past 3 seasons at the most.
You don't follow the oilers.

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Right now

Eberle
RNH
Hall
yakupov

But its just the matter of time before Yakupov surpasses Hall. Plus he plays with 2 scrubs and doesnt get top ice like Hall does, so he wont put up great numbers. Yakupov is a much more skilled dynamic player.
Those two scrubs are playing good hockey. In fact one of them was tied with Hands of stone himself for team lead in points. I fear you don't know what you are talking about

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I would offer Gardiner + Frattin + 2013 2nd

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I would offer Gardiner + Frattin + 2013 2nd
Not even close.

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Right now

Eberle
RNH
Hall
yakupov

But its just the matter of time before Yakupov surpasses Hall. Plus he plays with 2 scrubs and doesnt get top ice like Hall does, so he wont put up great numbers. Yakupov is a much more skilled dynamic player.
From reading fan comments, I thought Hall was the emotional leader among the youngsters.

The talent among those young forwards, will give defenses fits. I'm glad the Oilers are out West.

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Why wouldn't Edmonton be able to afford all 4 of Hall, Eberle, RNH and Yakupov?

Chicago manages to afford Kane, Toews, Hossa, Sharp, Keith and Seabrook.

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Don't worry about the Oilers fans posting this, Jason Strudwick said on his show that the Oilers will never be able to afford all 4 of them, but seriously, Struds has taken way to many shots to the head. He's basically Edmonton medias version of Kypreos.

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From reading fan comments, I thought Hall was the emotional leader among the youngsters.

The talent among those young forwards, will give defenses fits. I'm glad the Oilers are out West.
It's pretty accurate.

For the majority of last season he was the guy driving the offense.

Without him, the top line simply did not look the same.

He gives defense fits with his speed, he is developing his physical game, and has good leadership qualities and has the compete level of a future captain.

Some people think because he doesn't have the pure shot of Yakupov, or the hands of Eberle, or the vision of RNH that he is the least talented of the top 4.

While he may have the least pure talent, a lot of times he is the most effective offensively of the 4, and you only have to look at his goals and points per game to see that.

And now this year his shoulder has been fixed and he looks healthy, the sky is the limit IMO. It's pretty obvious he isn't going anywhere.

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Those two scrubs are playing good hockey. In fact one of them was tied with Hands of stone himself for team lead in points. I fear you don't know what you are talking about
Hall is definitely the least skilled of the 4. Hes not going to be the superstar everyone makes him out to be. Plus hes already dealing with injuries. Hes on the same level as B.Ryan. I dont see him putting up a PPG throughout his career. With Yakupov i see this guy putting up some 90pt seasons and becoming an elite player.

Dealing a player like Hall could get the oilers a franchise goalie.

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I rank them on potential,

yakupov
Eberle/Hall
RNH

Hall needs to get some hands on dekes. If he uses his quick shot without thinking too much he is fine. He is presently the strongest, Yak will pass him IMO. Right now he should have the most trade value and if they are trading him we need a very large center, Jordan Staal type.

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Why wouldn't Edmonton be able to afford all 4 of Hall, Eberle, RNH and Yakupov?

Chicago manages to afford Kane, Toews, Hossa, Sharp, Keith and Seabrook.
Apparently only elite teams can afford their players.

Chicago - Hossa, Toews, Sharp, Keith, Kane, and Seabrook.
Pittsburgh - Malkin, Crosby, Letang, Neal, and Fleury.
Rangers - Nash, Gaborik, Richards, Hank, and all their D.

I could pretty much list the high paid core of every team, and every one of them can afford their top guys.

Oilers will have no problem affording RNH, Schultz, Yakupov, Eberle, and Hall.

If it comes down to it, Oilers will shed money by losing Whitney, Horcoff, Hemsky, and Gagner, the same way the Hawks let go guys like Ladd, Campbell, Buff, and Brouwer.

You never let go of core players for money, unless you have some sort of internal cap with poor ownership.


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I rank them on potential,

yakupov
Eberle/Hall
RNH

Hall needs to get some hands on dekes. If he uses his quick shot without thinking too much he is fine. He is presently the strongest, Yak will pass him IMO. Right now he should have the most trade value and if they are trading him we need a very large center, Jordan Staal type.
A Jordan Staal type centre would be great, but you don't trade 1st line players away for 2nd line players if you ever expect to win.

When you're close to winning, you make a trade similar to Carolina and give up some future pieces for a centre, not current core pieces.

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Apparently only elite teams can afford their players.

Chicago - Hossa, Toews, Sharp, Keith, Kane, and Seabrook.
Pittsburgh - Malkin, Crosby, Letang, Neal, and Fleury.
Rangers - Nash, Gaborik, Richards, Hank, and all their D.

I could pretty much list the high paid core of every team, and every one of them can afford their top guys.

Oilers will have no problem affording Hall, Schultz, Yakupov, Eberle, and Hall.

If it comes down to it, Oilers will shed money by losing Whitney, Horcoff, Hemsky, and Gagner, the same way the Hawks let go guys like Ladd, Campbell, Buff, and Brouwer.

You never let go of core players for money, unless you have some sort of internal cap with poor ownership.
We're going to be paying hall twice?

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so a small top 6 already and u want to trade the biggest one who plays with some size ohh and hes also a ppg this yryeh that makes sense

struds makes one comment and off the rails it goes...he also said ovi on this team would hamper them and he wouldnt take him for 1mill a yr in a trade for omark the guy was out to lunch yesterday

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Hall is definitely the least skilled of the 4. Hes not going to be the superstar everyone makes him out to be. Plus hes already dealing with injuries. Hes on the same level as B.Ryan. I dont see him putting up a PPG throughout his career. With Yakupov i see this guy putting up some 90pt seasons and becoming an elite player.

Dealing a player like Hall could get the oilers a franchise goalie.
Goalies are the most unpredictable assets in the NHL. A goalie who's in the running for the Vezina one year could become one of the worst contracts in the NHL a season later (see: Bryzgalov, Ilya), whereas other times a goalie could come out of nowhere and put their name into the Vezina balloting (see: Smith, Mike). The only goalies who've been consistently good for the past 5 seasons are Henrik Lundqvist and Ryan Miller, (Luongo if you don't count playoffs). You don't take the big risk of trading a first line 20 year old for a guy who could fall off the face of the Earth in 2 seasons.

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A Jordan Staal type centre would be great, but you don't trade 1st line players away for 2nd line players if you ever expect to win.

When you're close to winning, you make a trade similar to Carolina and give up some future pieces for a centre, not current core pieces.
Oilers will most likely have to trade either RNH or Hall to get the #1 center they really need.

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Let's break this down shall we.

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Hes the least talented of the 4
most Oiler fans a will disagree with you, and you know they watch all of his games.

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and Yakupov can make Hall look like he has hands of stone at times
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Yakupov has played what, 10 games?
Hall put up something like 27 goals one year (easily on pace for 30 +) so the hands of stone argument is garbage

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What kind of return would he get if the Oilers move him in say the next couple years?
He would cost as much as any of the others, more than Yakupov and Schultz atm. Anyways i doubt they move him at all.

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We all know the Oilers wont be able to afford all 4, id say past 3 seasons at the most.
they can and will be able to afford all 5, they will just be more of a top heavy team with a weaker bottom 6

The worst part is that I don't even like Hall, but gosh that was a horrible intro for him OP

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We're going to be paying hall twice?
Yup! We will trade RNH for Hall, then pay Hall twice, and then pay RNH as well.

Too early for hockey today...

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Oilers will most likely have to trade either RNH or Hall to get the #1 center they really need.
They don't need a #1 centre....

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The Oilers would need one of the three if they are going to trade Taylor Hall.



1)Top defenseman

2)Talented-big centreman

3)Top power-forward
I would give up Edler and a prospect/pick but I doubt you guys do it. Hall is a keeper

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