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03-08-2013, 09:04 PM
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He was down-right dominate on the boards. He made 2 defenders fall and created scoring chance from the point. Scores winner after.

Once he matures and understands the game better and how to adapt his body to the physicality of the game, he'll be amazing.

I don't know about you guys but his skating does not look like an issue at all tonight. He was skating really well blowing by a couple guys too.

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03-08-2013, 09:16 PM
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He was down-right dominate on the boards. He made 2 defenders fall and created scoring chance from the point. Scores winner after.

Once he matures and understands the game better and how to adapt his body to the physicality of the game, he'll be amazing.

I don't know about you guys but his skating does not look like an issue at all tonight. He was skating really well blowing by a couple guys too.
I feel as if he can never create any separation from his marker. Worse yet, when he does have a step or two on a defender, he is frequently caught up to and what looked like a very promising offensive play (in many cases even an odd-man rush) quickly develops into nothing. His lack of speed also lets defenders adjust too easily one-on-one as they don't have to account for the possibility of getting beat on the outside; far too many of his shots get blocked as a result when d-men simply stand him up.

Don't get me wrong, I love Silfverberg. As I said in my last post, he clearly has great hands and the shot to match. In particular, I have been impressed by his back-checking and defensive game which both are clearly NHL level and very developed for a player of his age. And as you mentioned, he is very good on the boards. He's definitely an NHL player. But we all want him to be a legit top-line scoring threat. Maybe not in the sense of being bonafide first-liner caliber player per se.... but at least in the mold of a Michalek where you can put him on your first-line, have him produce, and look fully capable of the role. To do that, playing the style of game he does, I feel Silfverberg still needs that extra "jump".

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03-08-2013, 09:21 PM
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He definitely doesn't have Hosa/Havlat speed. Heatley never had good wheels though and he scored plenty.


I think the biggest developmental issue will be finding a way for Silfverberg to position himself without the puck in the offensive zone. He WANTS to carry the puck, but he'll be better if he lets other guys like Spezza do that instead.

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03-08-2013, 09:30 PM
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I think that Maclean is the guy to develop the speed. This team is way more mobile than it was 2 years ago. It's the major reason for our success.

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03-09-2013, 03:18 AM
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You got a gem in Silfverberg. I would say that the comparison whit Heatley isnt that of. A Heatley whit an Alfredsson-workethic and dedication, he is used to "carry his team" on his shoulders like he did in the SEL - playoffs last year. Im happy that seems to be paceing up in the Nhl too, I think that he is that kind of player that will score many GWGs in tight important games for Ottawa in the future and go beastmode in the playoffs if you get there. Some players just got that abillity, Silfverberg is one of them, for sure.

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03-09-2013, 09:31 AM
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You got a gem in Silfverberg. I would say that the comparison whit Heatley isnt that of. A Heatley whit an Alfredsson-workethic and dedication, he is used to "carry his team" on his shoulders like he did in the SEL - playoffs last year. Im happy that seems to be paceing up in the Nhl too, I think that he is that kind of player that will score many GWGs in tight important games for Ottawa in the future and go beastmode in the playoffs if you get there. Some players just got that abillity, Silfverberg is one of them, for sure.
Yes sir. He works hard, he's got a good stick and his boardplay is very, very good. If he is willing to go near the crease like he did last night he's going to score a lot of goals. He'll still score a bunch of goals without doing it -- but with his hands (he actually LIFTED the puck in close!) he will score a ton of goals from 10 feet in if he wants to.

Also his skating has definitely looked good when he's been on. I'll say it again...he just looks tired out there some nights. This schedule is a pretty big deal for your first year in the NHL after you already played 30some games and then fitting 48 into a compressed schedule.

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03-09-2013, 01:21 PM
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What is even better is Zibanejad is also known for his high motor and clutch performances. Having Silfverberg and Zibanejad and the ability to have to future star players step up when it matters would be enormous.

Last night when Silfverberg scored, Zibanejad's line came right back and Zibby almost scored.

I'm loving it and they're just 22 and 19 respectively.

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03-09-2013, 02:28 PM
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What is even better is Zibanejad is also known for his high motor and clutch performances. Having Silfverberg and Zibanejad and the ability to have to future star players step up when it matters would be enormous.

Last night when Silfverberg scored, Zibanejad's line came right back and Zibby almost scored.

I'm loving it and they're just 22 and 19 respectively.
I thought Stone looked absolutely dominant down low. At his age to control the boards like that is something I havent seen since Hossa on this team. He isnt a great skater but he is already where the puck is meaning his hockey sense is off the charts. I love how Stone, Zib and Silf are all different style forwards that could really compliment one another.

I really want to see Stone play with Spezza it could be fire works.

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03-09-2013, 02:47 PM
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I'm confident that Silfs skating will improve (although I never found it that terrible) he definitely doesn't have "elite" speed, but how many guys even have that?

The more he plays in the NHL the better he is going to get. The guy has barely played in the NHL let alone on the North American ice. I expect all of his skill to dramatically improve after this season and next training camp. I wish that he'd stick around in the off-season to train with the Sens staff and they can ensure that he's keeping up with this workouts.

Actually, I think if I was a GM I would try and offer bonuses based upon how fit players showed up to training camp. There would be other bonuses for guys who elected to stay in Ottawa and train with the sens staff. This way you ensure that everyone is meeting their fitness goals for the off-season.

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03-09-2013, 03:20 PM
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I think last night was Silf's best overall game. He carried the puck a few times and he battled (and won) on a number of occasions in the offensive zone, creating chances and/or keeping the cycle going.

I can't recall who he was racing but he blew by a NYR defender through the neutral zone before he ended up snowing Lundquist who had to cover the puck.

Sure he can get quicker but to me it is that he is still thinking too much out there...once he gets to the point where the game is natural for him again I think we will see him get shots from better positions...this might sound dumb but I find he stickhandles way too much when carrying the puck through the neutral zone and nobody is on him...he is working the stick furiously and it slow him down...just an odd observation.

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03-09-2013, 05:00 PM
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I thought Stone looked absolutely dominant down low. At his age to control the boards like that is something I havent seen since Hossa on this team. He isnt a great skater but he is already where the puck is meaning his hockey sense is off the charts. I love how Stone, Zib and Silf are all different style forwards that could really compliment one another.

I really want to see Stone play with Spezza it could be fire works.
His stride is awkward and it leads to him being unbalanced when he is skating, but below the goal line he is extremely strong and difficult to contain, and has the vision to spot guys when he breaks away from defenders.

Love what he has shown so far. No doubt in my mind he is going to be a valuable top 6er down the road.

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03-09-2013, 05:02 PM
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Love what he has shown so far. No doubt in my mind he is going to be a valuable top 6er down the road.
I thought he was awful?

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Gotta get used to Stone rocking 16. I kept thinking Butler was back on the team last night at first glance when I saw 16 lol

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I thought he was awful?
Read the post I was responding to.

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After seeing him in action for a while what do you guys think his ceiling / upside is? Do you think he's just going to take some time to adapt to the NA game before he puts up goals/points or is he just going to be more of a two way winger?

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03-12-2013, 11:55 AM
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After seeing him in action for a while what do you guys think his ceiling / upside is? Do you think he's just going to take some time to adapt to the NA game before he puts up goals/points or is he just going to be more of a two way winger?
I see a 60 - 70 point great 2-way winger that could push for more depending on the season and who he is playing with. He'll be a leader on and off the ice.

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I see a 60 - 70 point great 2-way winger that could push for more depending on the season and who he is playing with. He'll be a leader on and off the ice.
Pretty much this for when he's at his best.

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He had a strong game last night. Playing much less shy more consistently.

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03-12-2013, 12:04 PM
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After seeing him in action for a while what do you guys think his ceiling / upside is? Do you think he's just going to take some time to adapt to the NA game before he puts up goals/points or is he just going to be more of a two way winger?
I see 60 points being the absolute max he could reach while being a solid two way player and a bit of a shootout specialist

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I see 60 points being the absolute max he could reach while being a solid two way player and a bit of a shootout specialist
I would think that 60 points and solid two-way play would prevent him from being a "shootout specialist". Just sounds like a really good hockey player to me.

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03-13-2013, 10:20 AM
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I think he will probably become a 25 goal scorer, which is pretty good in today's NHL. As other people said already, if he was a half a step quicker it would help his game tremendously.

I see him as the type of player even team needs in order to win and contend. However, I do not see him as a guy to build your team around. So star potential-yes. Superstar potential-not showing at this point, but he is still pretty young.

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Definitely a top 6 winger for years to come. Love his hustle and wrist-shot. Strong and often underrated defensive play.

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4 for 4 in the shootout when going high glove side

0 for 2 when going for something else

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Depends who he is going to play with for extended periods of time, they all need to do well for him to do well. I think he has a bright future for this team.

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Anyone else really seeing some noticeable speed increases from Silf?

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