gunnersson has to be moved, while he is on the injured list, cause if we activate him we will be over the 23 man roster, now what?
My feeling is that we should send Komi down to the Marlies when Gunnar is ready to come back. Maybe he gets claimed, but more likely he clears and we get a $900K reduction in his cap hit.
We don't really have any big contracts on the books that we need to unload as it stands right now. Is this offseason the only time that we can use the two anmesty buyouts or can we hold on to them for future use?
You are allowed to use one this summer, or next year's summer.
These scenario's don't really help the Leafs, though. Only Komisarek has a deal where this would be relevant, while player's like Grabovski and Liles have some trade value, so it would not make sense to amnesty them.
The other option would be to trade for a bad contract, and then use the amnesty on the contract. You could acquire assets for taking on the contract, as well. I have yet to hear confirmation on if this is legal or not yet, though. If it is, this would be the Leaf's key financial advantage.
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Do the amnesty buy-outs need to be used in the coming offseason or can we hold on to them?
If they do need to be used, then one thing I've been thinking about is does anyone know if there's a rule against buying a player out and then signing them to a new contract? If it was allowed, then that could be a really effective move for some teams who don't have any glaring albatross contracts (i.e. buy out Phaneufs final year at $5.5M, meaning he'd get $1.83M for two years that didn't count against the cap, and then re-sign him to a contract that's like $1M/yr less than normal). Of course, there'd need to be some agreement between the team and player to make this work, but just a thought.
It would be illegal to do this, as I think it would count as a 'circumvention' of the CBA, and I can't see either the PA or League accepting it. It would fall under "re-structuring of contract."
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Not sure, but I'd guess it's a one-time window.
We're gonna have to use one at least on Komi. Other than that, any other contract we might want to move will be tradeable IMO.
I wonder if they can amnesty Tucker or Armstrong's last year of buyout caphit, maybe.
No, there is a window this summer and next summer.
Agreed on the second paragraph, see above.
And why would you use it on Tucker and Armstrong when the amount, namely, 1 million is insignificant and expiring soon (assuming this is possible)?
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i'd rather keep komi, can't beleive i just said it but he's a good fit under carlyle.
the reason i say macarthur and gunnarsson is i think they could fetch a decent pick or prospect to help restock the farm. i'm perfectly fine with getting rid of steckel and keeping macarthur as insurance though.
Komisarek is mentioned because the Leafs have an amnesty clause and it can be used or not used. Since people do not like things to go to waste, he is the most logical choice. Not only is he not playing, but his contract goes for another year as well.
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My feeling is that we should send Komi down to the Marlies when Gunnar is ready to come back. Maybe he gets claimed, but more likely he clears and we get a $900K reduction in his cap hit.
Komisarek has a 'NMC', meaning he cannot be sent down. If he did not have one of these clauses, then I think he would have already been sent down.
It's a shame, really. He could have been at least playing in the AHL rather than not playing in the NHL.
My feeling is that we should send Komi down to the Marlies when Gunnar is ready to come back. Maybe he gets claimed, but more likely he clears and we get a $900K reduction in his cap hit.
Komi has a NMC, we won't be able to send him to the minors.
MacArthur's gone. We've all seen it for a while. There isn't a spot for him.
I'd like to see the lines rolled a little more even. Or roll Kessel/Bozak/JVR with the most and then even times for Grabo and Kadri's lines. Give us some balanced scoring that will be hard to shut down all at once.
He played RW in Anaheim and he wanted to play LW but Carlyle didn't think he could.
When Carlyle came here, he apologized to Lupul, and said he's a much better fit on the left side.
Wasn't it the other way around? Lupul wanted to play RW, but Caryle thought he couldn't because they had Perry and Selanne on the right side, so they stuck Lupul on the LW?
Randy really likes keeping players on their strong side, and with a healthy lineup he's almost there. Only Lupul and Kuly will be on their offwings, and they both thrive there so there's no reason to move them.
Lupul (R) - Kessel (R)
JVR (L) - Frattin (R)
Mac (L) - Kuly (L)
Koma (L) - Orr (R)
makes me think that unless Gardiner makes it impossible to keep him down, he's going to have a hard time cracking the squad any time soon.
This also makes me think that with lefties Gards and Rielly in the system, Liles and Gunnar are getting closer and closer to trade bait.....something I never would have wanted before, but with the quality play of Kostka, Holzer, Franson, and Fraser, and with Gardiner and Rielly coming up soon, is starting to make more sense.
Phaneuf(top 4), Gardiner(top 4), Gunnar(top 4), Holzer(shutdown top 4), Liles(PP/5-6), Komi(6-7), Kostka(top 4 even strength), Fraser(6-7), Franson(PP, 5-6) are all capable of being NHL d-men
9 d-men, not counting Rielly who will make noise at camp next season. Komi won't be traded due to cap hit i'd say, so who goes? Franson? Kostka? Liles?
Ron Wilson was terrible at juggling lines and when you see how well it can present opportunities under a decent coach, it is impressive.
Someone with your keen knowledge of hockey should get in touch with USA Hockey. Little did they know that all they needed was a "decent" coach and they would have walked away with gold at Vancouver.
Phaneuf(top 4), Gardiner(top 4), Gunnar(top 4), Holzer(shutdown top 4), Liles(PP/5-6), Komi(6-7), Kostka(top 4 even strength), Fraser(6-7), Franson(PP, 5-6) are all capable of being NHL d-men
9 d-men, not counting Rielly who will make noise at camp next season. Komi won't be traded due to cap hit i'd say, so who goes? Franson? Kostka? Liles?
Liles/Franson are 5-6 dmen but Holzer/Kostka are top-4? Don't be ridiculous
Liles/Franson are 5-6 dmen but Holzer/Kostka are top-4? Don't be ridiculous
I should say potential top 4. Liles is an OK top 4 guy, more suited to the PP time and less minutes. Franson is really only great at offense, average at d.
Holzer has been getting better every game, Kostka also has been calm throughout all of his games, great for the PK and even strength, not good for the PP though.
Like it's definitely arguable, but both have shown top 4 potential IMO at least.
I should say potential top 4. Liles is an OK top 4 guy, more suited to the PP time and less minutes. Franson is really only great at offense, average at d.
Holzer has been getting better every game, Kostka also has been calm throughout all of his games, great for the PK and even strength, not good for the PP though.
Like it's definitely arguable, but both have shown top 4 potential IMO at least.
Yeah that's better wording. I think Liles/Franson have been great and shown why they are top-4 dmen, but again to each their own. I think Kostka is very average with the puck (somehow was PPG in the AHL though), but I find he sometimes makes poor decisions and fans a lot (ala Luke Schenn). He's been steady defensively though.
You can't break up the JVR-KESSEL combo. Despite Lupul-Kessel being amazing together the JVR-KESSEL combo is close to as good but there playing very well difference which is huge. Lupul could bring so much to the Grabo or Kadri line.
Line 1: 19 minutes (scoring line 1)
Line 2: 17 minutes (scoring line 2)
Line 3: 18 minutes (shut down line)
Line 4: 6 minutes (Mcclement - Mac for special teams - PK) (Orr for intimidation)
You can't break up the JVR-KESSEL combo. Despite Lupul-Kessel being amazing together the JVR-KESSEL combo is close to as good but there playing very well difference which is huge. Lupul could bring so much to the Grabo or Kadri line.
Line 1: 19 minutes (scoring line 1)
Line 2: 17 minutes (scoring line 2)
Line 3: 18 minutes (shut down line)
Line 4: 6 minutes (Mcclement - Mac for special teams - PK) (Orr for intimidation)
Gonna be interesting to see how the first line is gonna look. Lupul + Kessel = dynamic duo of last year
But JVR and Kessel have proven to have similar chemistry to that of Lupul + Kessel. I doubt Carlyle will break up the first line, it's producing points really well for us. Unless that line slows down i don't think Lupul will be back on the first line. Maybe JVR as centre ? not sure, but one things for sure we got WAY too many wingers. Would be ideal to move one (macarthur maybe ? ) for a center
