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08-03-2013, 12:10 PM
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Mark Ellis ejection
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08-03-2013, 12:21 PM
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^ LOL @ the kid (sitting behind the plate) covering his ears. I guess that's good parenting?

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After seeing the replay I retract my previous post. Him getting tossed, not even using curse words is pretty damn bad. There is no way in hell that warranted an ejection. Hell Ortiz just the other day was blowing up and didn't get tossed until he was breaking phones in the dugout. Terrible call in this case.

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08-03-2013, 12:37 PM
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And he was yet again, what a highlight reel. Rookie of the Year perhaps?
Jean Segura has that locked up. Been killer all year. If Puig had played from day one he'd have it. Segura is closing in on 450 AB's this year and is still batting .320, on what will likely be a 15-20HR/40 steal rookie season. He's a monster.

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08-03-2013, 12:45 PM
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Jean Segura has that locked up. Been killer all year. If Puig had played from day one he'd have it. Segura is closing in on 450 AB's this year and is still batting .320, on what will likely be a 15-20HR/40 steal rookie season. He's a monster.
Segura already had 151 MLB at-bats prior to this season. I don't think he is eligible for ROY.

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08-03-2013, 01:14 PM
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Segura already had 151 MLB at-bats prior to this season. I don't think he is eligible for ROY.
Oh ya know what you are totally right. My fault, 21 ABs over the eligibility.

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08-03-2013, 02:46 PM
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The Mark Ellis thing erked me today.

You're not allowed to argue balls and strikes... and I thought Ellis was a little over dramatic, but a veteran umpire would have given him the benefit of the doubt, especially because Bosio wasn't kicked out for arguing from the bench & because Ellis never argues.

But Ellis getting kicked out wasn't as huge deal as Chris Bosio (who's a coach not a player) NOT getting kicked for doing the same thing. That kinda poor judgement and inconsistency is what is plaguing baseball.

It's unacceptable from ANY official of ANY sport, there's just more of it in baseball than anywhere else. honestly, what sports sees more players/coaches ejected for their behavior with officials than baseball?

It's not even close. Hockey and football players KILL EACH OTHER and lobby the refs constantly...Basketball players are always yapping at the refs...neither are anywhere near the amount of disciplinary ejections as baseball has. The NBA has definitely cracked down more in the last few years, but still, not even close.

And if Torre even considers suspending anyone other than the umpire for the contact that was made...he's a fool. Heck he worked for Frank McCourt...we already know he was at least foolish.
Funny thing was that besides a few bad balls and strikes called the ump called a very good game. The issue with that ump is that he's sensitive because he's not a veteran by MLB ump standards. He's toiled up and down between the minors and occasional MLB games when needed until he stuck a couple years ago. He also grades out by MLB pretty poorly according to mikescosciastragicillness. He's fighting for his career and because of which is extra worried about being shown up.

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Jean Segura has that locked up. Been killer all year. If Puig had played from day one he'd have it. Segura is closing in on 450 AB's this year and is still batting .320, on what will likely be a 15-20HR/40 steal rookie season. He's a monster.
He's not a rookie. Besides, he has been absolutely terrible for a month and a half now. It will go to Shelby Miller or Jose Fernandez.

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08-03-2013, 07:19 PM
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He's not a rookie. Besides, he has been absolutely terrible for a month and a half now. It will go to Shelby Miller or Jose Fernandez.
If Puig plays 45 to 53 games the rest of the way (he's played 53 to this point), and only injury will stop him, He'll be ROY...like the following players that won it:

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2013 | Yasiel Puig LAD --- 103 Games .357/.429/.600

Past ROY Winners
2010 | Buster Posey SFG -- 108 Games .305/.357/.505
2007 | Ryan Braun MIL ---- 113 Games .324/.370/.634
2005 | Ryan Howard PHI ---- 88 Games .288/.356/.567
1994 | Raul Mondesi LAD -- 112 Games .306/.333/.516
1989 | Jerome Walton CHC - 116 Games .293/.335/.385
1978 | Bob Horner ATL ----- 89 Games .266/.313/.539


So we've established that you can win award having missed 50 or more games. The BBWAA isn't going to hold against him the fact that Ned kept him in the minors when he should have been up the whole time. It's not his fault. He had no control over it. He was playing GREAT in the minors too.

Based on his current pace and numbers Puig will have to hit .222 the rest of the way to hit just .300 for the season, which past ROY winners haven't even done. He's on pace to hit 22 HR's this season batting 2nd in the order and his WAR is 3.2 which is 15th best among NL players with 220 PAs.

The pitchers you named are fine young pitchers having great seasons. No question about it, but they haven't had the impact on a potential division winning team that Puig has had.

The Dodgers were 23-32, 8 1/2 back in the NL West and Donny was about to get fired (or so the media was saying) when they brought up Puig. They have played .685 baseball since (37-17 or 111-51 over 162 games). They have the best record in baseball since (3 games better than TBR) and are 12 1/2 games better than the next best NL West team in that stretch (SDP). They haven't lost two straight games since June 21st (37 games). They've set a franchise record for consecutive road wins and they are 5 games up in the loss column over ARZ.

Now I'm not saying Puig has done it alone and yes, playing in a media center like LA, he's going to get more attention than those other fine candidates for NL ROY. But the Dodgers are a night and day different team since he came up both in attitude and result. If you asked each player on the team who's the team MVP this season, some would say Kershaw (less than a 2 ERA ain't too shabby), you might even get a couple Jansen's (stabilized the bullpen after League's awful first half) and some would say Hanley (Quietly dominating offensively and playing well defensively), but there isn't a player or coach on the team that won't smile and laugh when the word Puig is brought up.

Some may not like the brashness he plays with and there are members of the media who vote for the award that maybe he rubs the wrong way off the field. But on the field the guy makes a difference every single game with his bat, legs, glove or arm. His personal stats bare it out and the team's performance bares it out. He's changed the culture of this team the same way Manny did when he got to LA and Manny was a 16-year veteran when he came to the Dodgers who was also using PEDs.

If Puig plays even 85% of the remaining games (45 games) and finishes out the season at even 80% of his current pace, and the Dodgers win the West...all reasonable "ifs", the ROY is his...going away. There is no other reasonable choice for the award because there is a big difference between having a great season for a bad team, having a great season for a very good team and having a major role in turning a team deep in last place into a 1st place team in the span of less than 1/3 of a season and saving your manager's job in the process.

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08-04-2013, 03:50 PM
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****ing great Hanley hurt again

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****ing great Hanley hurt again
And the Angels bullpen blew another game...

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Hanley is the glue in that lineup. Can't afford to be without him for very long.

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And the Angels bullpen blew another game...
and it doesn't help when the ump blows a critical play in the 9th

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Dodger Pitching since June 22, 2013:

W --- L -- IP ---- AB ---- H ---- R --- ER -- BB -- SO --- HR --- ERA ----- BA --- WHIP -- K/9 -- HR/9
31 -- 7 -- 330 -- 1253 -- 286 -- 103 -- 94 -- 83 -- 296 -- 25 -- 2.564 -- 0.2282 - 1.118 - 8.1 -- 0.68

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Dodger Pitching since June 22, 2013:

W --- L -- IP ---- AB ---- H ---- R --- ER -- BB -- SO --- HR --- ERA ----- BA --- WHIP -- K/9 -- HR/9
31 -- 7 -- 330 -- 1253 -- 286 -- 103 -- 94 -- 83 -- 296 -- 25 -- 2.564 -- 0.2282 - 1.118 - 8.1 -- 0.68
You know you're rolling when your number 4 and 5 starters give up no runs. 2 hits total and still win. One hell of a streak for sure.

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08-06-2013, 09:30 PM
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Kershaw must just shake his head at every double play the Doyers have hit into tonight. Give the guy some run support.

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Donnie and his obsession with sacrifice bunts. What a joke.

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Kershaw must just shake his head at every double play the Doyers have hit into tonight. Give the guy some run support.
How bad has CK's run support been this season?

While in the game, the Dodgers score CK 2.58 runs per game (62 runs over 24 games)...If you remove July 2nd (8 runs scored at COL) and July 21st (9 runs scored at WSN) it's 2.05 runs per game while he's pitching. The Dodgers are 13-11 when CK pitches even though his ERA hasn't been above 2.14 ALL SEASON.

The good news... this reminds me of 2012 Kings team with JQ32's lack of goal support. Now all the Dodgers need to do is win the World Series and have CK be MVP and it's exactly the same.

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Just mind-boggling how they don't score when he pitches.

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In other news, the Angels blow another late inning lead.

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League should only pitch BP. Because he already does it for the opposition

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Ned should have to pay the money to buy out that contract himself as punishment. In what alternate universe was League ever a reliable closer? But last night I blame Donnie for bringing him in. If you're going to turn Beltran around to hit from his better side it's because you're bringing in Jansen to close the game not so you have an excuse to bring in a pitcher with an almost 5 ERA when JP Howell was pitching just fine.

Also, does it bother anyone else that he's batting Gonzalez 3rd ahead of Puig, thus clogging up the base paths with the slowest non-catcher in baseball?

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Ned should have to pay the money to buy out that contract himself as punishment. In what alternate universe was League ever a reliable closer? But last night I blame Donnie for bringing him in. If you're going to turn Beltran around to hit from his better side it's because you're bringing in Jansen to close the game not so you have an excuse to bring in a pitcher with an almost 5 ERA when JP Howell was pitching just fine.

Also, does it bother anyone else that he's batting Gonzalez 3rd ahead of Puig, thus clogging up the base paths with the slowest non-catcher in baseball?
I don't get that line up shuffle either, especially with Puig's speed.

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