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03-06-2013, 01:33 PM
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Top Centers for the 2013 Draft?

I was looking at the Red Wings prospect pool today and I noticed that while being "loaded" with high upside wingers & defenceman we have few high upside centers. With Datsyuk possibly returning to Russia after next year who are the top centers in this draft & what would their maximum upside be?

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03-06-2013, 01:47 PM
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I was looking at the Red Wings prospect pool today and I noticed that while being "loaded" with high upside wingers & defenceman we have few high upside centers. With Datsyuk possibly returning to Russia after next year who are the top centers in this draft & what would their maximum upside be?
guys who will be #1 centers

MacKinnon
Drouin (natural center who plays wing)
Lindholm
Barkov

guys who could be #1 centers

Monahan
Dickenson
Shinkaruk (C/W)

guys who could be #2/3 guys

Lazar
Gauthier
Horvat (C/W)
Compher
Dauphin
Hurley (never seen play, could be higher)

their will also be some surprises

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Mackinnon
Barkov
Monahan
Lindholm
Domi
Wennberg
Dickinson
Gauthier
Lazar
Horvat
Compher
Petan
Dauphin

These seem to be centers that I could see going in the first round. There are some others that are listed as centers but seem to play on the wing. I'll let someone else field the 'maximum upside' part of it.

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My top 10, in brackets is the player's projected ceiling, not projected result

1. Nathan Mackinnon (possible franchise player and #1 PPG two-way centre)
2. Aleksandr Barkov (#1 two-way centre, upwards of 70 points)
3. Elias Lindholm (#1 high-end playmaking centre)
4. Sean Monahan (possible #1C, likely #2C with great two-way play, good production and intangibles)
5. Frederick Gauthier (#1/2C with great size and playmaking)
6. Max Domi (#1/2C, not very big but plays aggressively and has great puck skills. Likely to play as a winger in the NHL)
7. Curtis Lazar (#2C, great defensively, very physical and with a very good shot. Very low bust likelihood due to skillset)
8. Bo Horvat (#2C, one of the hardest working players in the draft, built like a tank with a great hockeymind and solid puck skills)
9. JT Compher (#2C, another very hard working player, does everything well but nothing exceptionally)
10. Andre Burakowsky (#2C, very fast and good at puck pursuit. Will likely be more of a complementary scorer than someone who can carry the production of a line)

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Thanks for the lists guys. Jets fan here who is looking at center first and foremost for our first round pick this year.

Anyone have things differently than:

1. MacKinnon (Drouin if you choose to include him)
2. Barkov
3. Lindholm
4. Monahan

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MacKinnon, Monahan and some Swedish guy, rest will bust.

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Mackinnon, Barkov, Lindholm, and Monahan are the top-end guys in that order.

But this draft is loaded with centers, there are a lot of guys you can get lower in the draft. A personal favorite of mine is Laurent Dauphin.

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Interesting info, thanks guys. I don't think the Wings will be bad enough to pick top 10 so there go most of the high end guys. Frederick Gauthier & Jason Dickinson are 2 guys that interest me & should fall into the range the wings could pick, anyone have a detailed scouting report on either? I've read that Dickinson could project to be a Mike Richards light but that's it for my knowledge on either of them.

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guys who will be #1 centers

MacKinnon
Drouin (natural center who plays wing)
Lindholm
Barkov

guys who could be #1 centers

Monahan
Dickenson
Shinkaruk (C/W)

guys who could be #2/3 guys

Lazar
Gauthier
Horvat (C/W)
Compher
Dauphin
Hurley (never seen play, could be higher)

their will also be some surprises


May I ask where you got that info? Because he certainly hasn't played any centre over the past 2 seasons and I've heard from people who watched him grow up he was always a winger.

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Mackinnon
Barkov
Monahan
Lindholm
Domi
Wennberg
Dickinson
Gauthier
Lazar
Horvat
Compher
Petan
Dauphin

These seem to be centers that I could see going in the first round. There are some others that are listed as centers but seem to play on the wing. I'll let someone else field the 'maximum upside' part of it.
Really solid list. I would agree, as of right now, this would probably be the best list.

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May I ask where you got that info? Because he certainly hasn't played any centre over the past 2 seasons and I've heard from people who watched him grow up he was always a winger.
Agreed. People on here love to say this when he's hardly played a single shift at that position in the Q. He's definitely not a "natural" center. All top forwards play some center in bantam and midget. That said he's talented enough that he could probably transition to the position if desired. I think he's better suited for the wing though.

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May I ask where you got that info? Because he certainly hasn't played any centre over the past 2 seasons and I've heard from people who watched him grow up he was always a winger.
I was told that he was a center before coming to the Q and that he will play center next year with Halifax if he is back and MacKinnon is gone., his game also projects very good to play center.

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For the record, Drouin was listed as a centre for Lac-St. Louis when he was drafted by Halifax in 2011.

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My top 10, in brackets is the player's projected ceiling, not projected result

1. Nathan Mackinnon (possible franchise player and #1 PPG two-way centre)
2. Aleksandr Barkov (#1 two-way centre, upwards of 70 points)
3. Elias Lindholm (#1 high-end playmaking centre)
4. Sean Monahan (possible #1C, likely #2C with great two-way play, good production and intangibles)
5. Frederick Gauthier (#1/2C with great size and playmaking)
6. Max Domi (#1/2C, not very big but plays aggressively and has great puck skills. Likely to play as a winger in the NHL)
7. Curtis Lazar (#2C, great defensively, very physical and with a very good shot. Very low bust likelihood due to skillset)
8. Bo Horvat (#2C, one of the hardest working players in the draft, built like a tank with a great hockeymind and solid puck skills)
9. JT Compher (#2C, another very hard working player, does everything well but nothing exceptionally)
10. Andre Burakowsky (#2C, very fast and good at puck pursuit. Will likely be more of a complementary scorer than someone who can carry the production of a line)
I would think max domi is going to be a center. he's a lot like kadri. very creative center with high puck skills. I know there is this idea that smaller guys at the chl level who play center should play wing, but certain guys are going to have their game stymied by that. domi needs the space to be creative. look at how kadri is doing currently and look at him last year. its not a coincidence that he's playing so well at the center spot. while he has improved his game, he's also just given more room to use because of this. I would suggest domi is similar

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Top 5:

1) Mackinnon
2) Barkov
3) Lindholm
4) Monahan
5) Wennberg

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I would say out of the entire draft we will be lucky for half the guys listed on here will be either a 1C or 2C.

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Mackinnon
Barkov
Drouin
Lindholm
Domi

Those are the guys i think have #1 center upside (I know, no Monahan is intentional I think he is an excellent #2C but is essentially Toews lite in every aspect of his game. Kind of a Jordan Staal Who I still think is a great second line Center, not a true #1)

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I was told that he was a center before coming to the Q and that he will play center next year with Halifax if he is back and MacKinnon is gone., his game also projects very good to play center.
what?? to the person who said he has never played center or from ppl watching him grow up and he onlynplayed wing whoever told you that is lying. Drouin played center for tumes of jr hockey and some midget. to the quote above, who is your source? I have no reason to believe this is true and not speculation. if these are the plans for him then they are news to Drouin and if he is to believed, Russel too.

Drouin is much better in the nhl developing as a winger than a center. If spending a yr and a half as an nhl prospect is taking some offensive zone face-offs means you're a natural centerthen that is news to me. briere or Giroud playing wing are natural centers. kane or nash are not.

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Sasha Barkov is the guy I want out of all the centers. He reminds me of jaromir Jagr. Big body with skill and sweet hands, just seems to make things happen all the time. Always is in the right place at the right time. Hockey iQ is something you can't teach. When you watch video, you see a calmness and effortless quality about his game, and great with the puck like Jagr. Someone is going to get a great player.

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1. Mackinnon
2.Barkov
3. Lindholm
4. Monahan
5.Hurley

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