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02-22-2013, 01:46 PM
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And our best winger is now Danny Cleary. At least according to TOI. Laughable.

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02-22-2013, 02:33 PM
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Let's keep this in perspective. Their previous best wing was Jussi Jokinen for years so yeah getting Semin is going to seem unbelievable. :-)
Yeah, the Jussi Jokinen who has scored the same amount of 30 goal seasons as Franzen and one more than our top 6 stalwarts Filppula, Abdelkader, and Cleary ever will. I'm sure the memories of Erik Cole's 30 goal seasons are still in their memory banks too.


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02-22-2013, 04:12 PM
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Yeah, the Jussi Jokinen who has scored the same amount of 30 goal seasons as Franzen and one more than our top 6 stalwarts Filppula, Abdelkader, and Cleary ever will. I'm sure the memories of Erik Cole's 30 goal seasons are still in their memory banks too.
EZ and Jussi sitting in a tree...

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And our best winger is now Danny Cleary. At least according to TOI. Laughable.
Dan Cleary plays "real good"

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Let's keep this in perspective. Their previous best wing was Jussi Jokinen for years so yeah getting Semin is going to seem unbelievable. :-)
I think the best perspective is that Staal and Semin have played every game together, and they are saying that Semin is the better defensive forward of them. Not that E.Staal is the next Selke candidate but still, what was the expectations?

It's really the expections. Everybody there expected that Semin would only be a nice point-scorer but horrible defensively, like everybody yelled. But he has been a man worth of his words (wanted to be good in all situations, also at PK) play like a Kovalchuk role.

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Dan Cleary plays "real good"
This has gotta be the post of the year for me.

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I think the best perspective is that Staal and Semin have played every game together, and they are saying that Semin is the better defensive forward of them. Not that E.Staal is the next Selke candidate but still, what was the expectations?

It's really the expections. Everybody there expected that Semin would only be a nice point-scorer but horrible defensively, like everybody yelled. But he has been a man worth of his words (wanted to be good in all situations, also at PK) play like a Kovalchuk role.
I don't think that's true at all. Most of us here though Semin would be great. I was a vocal supporter of his during free agency.

Where people split,and debate, is why the Wings passed. But the conversation was mostly unanimous we all wanted him with Pavel.

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I don't think that's true at all. Most of us here though Semin would be great. I was a vocal supporter of his during free agency.

Where people split,and debate, is why the Wings passed. But the conversation was mostly unanimous we all wanted him with Pavel.
Yeah, I meant what those Carolina fans were generally thinking. Now they are surpriced because the whole case-Semin at Capitals was just normal scapegoat/overreacting ****.

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Meanwhile Semin leads the league in +/- o_O

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Meanwhile Semin leads the league in +/- o_O
Really? I was under the impression that he was a lazy and selfish player that was afraid of playing any defense or backchecking.

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Really? I was under the impression that he was a lazy and selfish player that was afraid of playing any defense or backchecking.
Tlusty and Staal were +1 and -20 at last season. Now they are +15 and +17 when playing with Semin.

Impressive.

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Tlusty and Staal were +1 and -20 at last season. Now they are +15 and +17 when playing with Semin.

Impressive.
Now imagine him on a line with Datsyuk.

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Now imagine him on a line with Datsyuk.
Yea, imagine.

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Now imagine him on a line with Datsyuk.
No need to imagine, as we´ve already seen that. Yeah, they were dynamite.

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No need to imagine, as we´ve already seen that. Yeah, they were dynamite.
Ovechkin was the worst player on that WHC-line.

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Meanwhile Semin leads the league in +/- o_O
People need to understand that when you are able to keep the puck in the offensive zone, the chance of letting in goals are close to zero. Not to single you out, but most people seem to forget this, and are very often somewhat surprised that "soft", speedy, elite puck handlers are "that good defensively". As long as Semin contributes the to tilting the play towards the offensive zone, he is by default playing awesome defence...

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He is also TOP10 in the league in takeaways.

1. Toews - 30
2. E.Staal - 28
3. Datsyuk - 27
4. Vanek - 27
5. St.Louis - 25
6. Hossa - 24
7. Semin - 24

21. Zetterberg - 18

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23. Erik Karlsson - 17 (still league leading defenceman)

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Ovechkin was the worst player on that WHC-line.

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SO if Getzlaf gets 8.25M Cap hit. Perry will probably get more on the open market. Lets just trade for Gabork.

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SO if Getzlaf gets 8.25M Cap hit. Perry will probably get more on the open market. Lets just trade for Gabork.
Wow.
That's a big chunk considering the cap is going to drop next year.

Tatar Datsyuk Gaborik sounds like a good line....


Cleary+Nyquist+Sproul for Gaborik

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Wow.
That's a big chunk considering the cap is going to drop next year.

Tatar Datsyuk Gaborik sounds like a good line....


Cleary+Nyquist+Sproul for Gaborik
Wait...you really think NYR is going to accept CLEARY as part of a deal for Gaborik?


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Wow.
That's a big chunk considering the cap is going to drop next year.

Tatar Datsyuk Gaborik sounds like a good line....


Cleary+Nyquist+Sproul for Gaborik
Gator+Cleary+Eaves+Ferraro/Sproul+Nyquist

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Wow.
That's a big chunk considering the cap is going to drop next year.

Tatar Datsyuk Gaborik sounds like a good line....


Cleary+Nyquist+Sproul for Gaborik
Think they would ask for Filppula + Helm... How a "package" including them would look like, I have no clue.

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03-08-2013, 02:24 PM
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He is also TOP10 in the league in takeaways.

1. Toews - 30
2. E.Staal - 28
3. Datsyuk - 27
4. Vanek - 27
5. St.Louis - 25
6. Hossa - 24
7. Semin - 24

21. Zetterberg - 18

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23. Erik Karlsson - 17 (still league leading defenceman)
Impossible. People on this board like HTT3 and Huddy have assured me Semin is bad defensively despite never watching him play.

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Wait...you really think NYR is going to accept CLEARY as part of a deal for Gaborik?

Expiring contract. Just a way to send some money back their way.

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