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02-10-2013, 10:10 PM
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that's a pretty good deal...
It's fantastic for us, but I fail to see why the Caps would want to make that deal.

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02-10-2013, 10:11 PM
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See, this is EXACTLY why I'm against paying $6.3m per year for a goalie. Who only plays 85% of the teams games. Give me a guy like Vokoun and spend the money on a guy who plays every game.

Miller isn't going to fetch what Sabre fans want. Maybe after his vezina year but not now.

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that's a pretty good deal...
Well duh, I'd take it in a heartbeat, I meant it's not even close for the Caps.. LOL

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Miller
Adam
Brennan

Neuvirth
Alzner
Forsberg

Close ?
Neuvy's been wet garbage for over a year now, so as long as they're not proceeding under the assumption that Neuvy is a bona fide starter, I'd be fine with it--Neuvy would get lit up like a Christmas tree in Buffalo behind this group. Alzner is a good defensive defenseman, and Forsberg is the prize in the deal. Given that we're giving up two nothings (Adam and Brennan) in addition to Miller, the deal is effectively Miller for Forsberg, Alzner, and Neuvirth.

Caps fans wouldn't go for it. They've got a lot of faith in Holtby removing his head from his arse in the imminent future, and probably don't see Miller as enough of an upgrade to justify giving up Forsberg, let alone Alzner and Forsberg.

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02-10-2013, 10:28 PM
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The problem with this whole discussion is that there is zero chance Miller is traded.

Not with the group currently running the show.

But if you enjoy making fantasy trades, carry on.

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02-10-2013, 10:32 PM
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Neuvy's been wet garbage for over a year now, so as long as they're not proceeding under the assumption that Neuvy is a bona fide starter, I'd be fine with it--Neuvy would get lit up like a Christmas tree in Buffalo behind this group. Alzner is a good defensive defenseman, and Forsberg is the prize in the deal. Given that we're giving up two nothings (Adam and Brennan) in addition to Miller, the deal is effectively Miller for Forsberg, Alzner, and Neuvirth.

Caps fans wouldn't go for it. They've got a lot of faith in Holtby removing his head from his arse in the imminent future, and probably don't see Miller as enough of an upgrade to justify giving up Forsberg, let alone Alzner and Forsberg.
Neuvirth is wet garbage, you say?
Seems like that may at least bring this tire fire down to a smolder.

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02-10-2013, 11:21 PM
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Miller
Adam
Brennan

Neuvirth
Alzner
Forsberg

Close ?
Take out Forsberg and it's closer. Adam and Brennan have very little value as trade bait.


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02-10-2013, 11:53 PM
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I have not read all the comments...

To the OP: Miller has a ton of trade value but why trade him?

If there’s a problem its Lindy Ruff, he has become too complacent... I'm tired of his laissez-faire post-game pressers...

Ruff needs to scratch himself for a few games...

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02-11-2013, 12:35 AM
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Not sure if this was posted in another thread but tonight Andrew Peters tweeted:

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Conversation that just happened. Sekera: sorry Milzy
Miller: no problem Reg, I'm used to it by now.

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02-11-2013, 01:06 AM
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Not sure if this was posted in another thread but tonight Andrew Peters tweeted:

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Conversation that just happened. Sekera: sorry Milzy
Miller: no problem Reg, I'm used to it by now.
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Poor Millzy

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02-11-2013, 01:20 AM
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Peters could say anything on his little twitter page. Is crap like this even verified or checked for accuracy?

If more than one source says they heard this exact exchange I'll tend to believe it. Otherwise I call shenanigans!

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Peters tweeted that after Sekera's monster giveaway in the third. Seeing as Sekera and Miller were on the ice next to each other by the net, I'm 9390823 percent sure that was a joke.

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Not saying we should trade Miller, this is purely hypothetical. I love Miller. But if the front office decides to go full rebuild, what could we realistically expect in return for Miller? How much value does he have? What would you want in return for Miller?
2 goaltenders....

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I just want Alzner/Carlson and Forsberg. ..I imagine we have to take back neuvirth. Brennan and Adam were starting points maybe gerbe and leopold is a step up or stafford and Sulzer?

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Miller
Adam
Brennan

Neuvirth
Alzner
Forsberg

Close ?
Hell yes.

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What about Ben Bishop from OTT? Probably wouldn't cost much and could be a starter. I say bring him in and evaluate him and move Millsy if you like what you see.

As for value. I'd take a top prospect and pick for him or a Scott Hartnell type of player.

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Not sure if this was posted in another thread but tonight Andrew Peters tweeted:

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Conversation that just happened. Sekera: sorry Milzy
Miller: no problem Reg, I'm used to it by now.
Oh GOD

This is just gut wrenching.

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02-11-2013, 04:23 PM
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Miller
Stafford
Leopold
token 2nd round pick

for

Neuvirth
Alzner
Forsberg

seems far more even, makes sense and pretty sure the Sabres coveted Forsberg as one of their 'guys' last draft

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What about Ben Bishop from OTT? Probably wouldn't cost much and could be a starter. I say bring him in and evaluate him and move Millsy if you like what you see.

As for value. I'd take a top prospect and pick for him or a Scott Hartnell type of player.
You'd trade Miller for Scott Hartnell?

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See, this is EXACTLY why I'm against paying $6.3m per year for a goalie. Who only plays 85% of the teams games. Give me a guy like Vokoun and spend the money on a guy who plays every game.

Miller isn't going to fetch what Sabre fans want. Maybe after his vezina year but not now.
Your math is funny. Miller plays 100% of 85% of the games (i.e., he plays 60 minutes per game). A star forward plays 33% of 100% of the games. Based purely on minutes, a goalie is better value.

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What about Ben Bishop from OTT? Probably wouldn't cost much and could be a starter. I say bring him in and evaluate him and move Millsy if you like what you see.

As for value. I'd take a top prospect and pick for him or a Scott Hartnell type of player.
Anyone have an idea what Ottawa is doing with Anderson / Bishop / Lehner? Last I heard Lehner has developed well.

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02-11-2013, 06:11 PM
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Anyone have an idea what Ottawa is doing with Anderson / Bishop / Lehner? Last I heard Lehner has developed well.
Bishop would be nice and probably wouldn't cost a lot to accquire but Lehner is a guy I really like. He's been fantastic in the AHL this year and since Anderson has played so well for Ottawa they could potentially move a goalie.

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There are certain things that teams that want to be competitive just don't do in this league. One of them is trade away a solid starting goalie without having another solid starting goalie on the roster. The fact that people are suggesting names like Bishop and Neuvirth as an alternative shows how little the average fans knows compared with the people who make these decisions.

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Bishop would be nice and probably wouldn't cost a lot to accquire but Lehner is a guy I really like. He's been fantastic in the AHL this year and since Anderson has played so well for Ottawa they could potentially move a goalie.
Bishop is the odd man out in Ottawa. Anderson is the goaltender for now, and Lehner is their long-term starter. They spent a 2nd on him last year, so I'd imagine they'd want something not far off that.

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Root for someone like Crawford or Niemi to get injured. Seriously. Not many teams have a need for a starter right now.
And just like that, Reimer injured in Toronto..

Doubt they'd want to ship him to a rival though.

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