We're all just upset. How are we to know it's the coaching anyway? Yeah, you can look at stats and stuff, but we aren't experiencing anything first hand. Rolie got old. Smith went to a much better defensive team. He looked pretty solid after being sent down, remember? Garon looks decent. And Lindy is a newbie.
These are all points, that don't point to Frantz being the problem. As much as I would like a scapegoat, I don't have one
Also, I've been gone all weekend. Why didn't Lee play last night?
I not that disappointed tha others here, but I still expected a little bit more out of him. I don't think we can expect anything better tha a 2,50 or ,910 from him because of the team, but I really expected a GAA under 3 and a SV% over ,900.
The problem is in the goalies mind.
"They come here and think I am a starter now, I have to be successfull. I have to post great numbers."
The reality is great numbers in Tampa mean 2,6 or 2,7 GAA and a SV% just around ,910. Everything above that means the goalie is a true star. But the young goalies are disappointed when they only manage something around 3,0 and around ,900. Then they lose faith and so on...
So the problem of the org is in the "psychological" sector. They are unable to bring the young guns faith. The old guys already know what to expect as a goalie in Tampa and play their game and are happy about the "so called bad stats", because the know it's not possible to be a top goalie in Tampa.
If Lindback understands that he will be great.
Bye the way I'm really happy about the offensive game, we play, I prefer a 6-5 win over a 1-0 by far. And if there is a team, that is able to hold us to a goal or a shutout, then they deserve the win.
We're all just upset. How are we to know it's the coaching anyway? Yeah, you can look at stats and stuff, but we aren't experiencing anything first hand. Rolie got old. Smith went to a much better defensive team. He looked pretty solid after being sent down, remember? Garon looks decent. And Lindy is a newbie.
These are all points, that don't point to Frantz being the problem. As much as I would like a scapegoat, I don't have one
Also, I've been gone all weekend. Why didn't Lee play last night?
You're right.
Then again, you could also say Smith, Ellis and Roloson all did better before and after working with Jean. Next victim: Lindback?
There's been a rumble in the media about something happening with the Lightning.
Anyone who knows the situation better, enlighten us, but from what I've gathered, there was a report on Tampa sports radio that Guy Boucher would be fired, but that was denied by a guy on Tampa's local Fox station.
Either way, the Lightning have said that they haven't scheduled a press conference for today.
There's been a rumble in the media about something happening with the Lightning.
Anyone who knows the situation better, enlighten us, but from what I've gathered, there was a report on Tampa sports radio that Guy Boucher would be fired, but that was denied by a guy on Tampa's local Fox station.
Either way, the Lightning have said that they haven't scheduled a press conference for today.
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There have been rumblings for a while that GM Steve Yzerman, whose team took a step backwards last season, is no longer enamored with coach Guy Boucher. There's no saying how accurate that talk is, but Yzerman rebuilt the Lightning's defense and got a decent goalie, so should Tampa Bay not qualify for the playoffs or if he feels the season is in danger of going down the drain, Yzerman might make a change. He would have some options with both Ruff (a Team Canada 2010 cohort) available and highly-touted Jon Cooper continuing his successful work with Tampa Bay's AHL club.
Duemig's ratings are horrible for what he used to be. I believe he's in the mid teens of afternoon drive shows when he used to be top 3. This is a pathetic move by a pathetic man trying to save his show.
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I'm behind so catching up on all of this between here, BP and twitter. Just when you thought Duemig couldn't sink any lower, he grabs a shovel and starts digging.
Listening to Duemig on the way home tonight he attributed the story to an article Bruce Garrioch of the Ottawa Sun wrote last week in his "rumors" section. He said he called the Lightning and they refuted the story saying there was no truth to the rumor and then he called Garrioch who did not return the call.
I'm not a fan of Duemig myself but this is most likely just more crap rumors from across the border trying to stir up news.
I'm not a fan of Duemig myself but this is most likely just more crap rumors from across the border trying to stir up news.
the team will fire boucher within the season, and FINALLY wrap up that trade of Vinny to Montreal that's been in the works since the turn of the millennium
the team will fire boucher within the season, and FINALLY wrap up that trade of Vinny to Montreal that's been in the works since the turn of the millennium
Unfortunately, even if we got Carey Price and PK Subban, giving up Vinny would be devastating to this team's season. (morale and other ****).
If not, Vinny and a 2nd round for Price and 4th round.
If we fail to make the playoffs this season and Yzerman determines that the main cause is coaching I can see him letting Boucher go this summer. Wouldn't like it but he's SFY, he knows what he's doing.
I think SFY is smart enough to know that giving Boucher an unproven player in net may not pan out the way they hoped it would. Part of that blame would be on SFY himself so Boucher's here to stay through his contract......his assistants on the other hand......
If we're into the final stretch of the season and it looks like TB won't make the playoffs, I want Boucher fired and Cooper brought in. In fact, the only situation in which I wouldn't like to see Cooper replace Boucher is a trip to the ECF.
Pete from BP said it best:
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So, right now (and I actually like Boucher), I see one coaching staff squandering a talent like Steven Stamkos and the other players around him and on the other I see Jon Cooper spinning straw into gold.
If we're into the final stretch of the season and it looks like TB won't make the playoffs, I want Boucher fired and Cooper brought in. In fact, the only situation in which I wouldn't like to see Cooper replace Boucher is a trip to the ECF.
Pete from BP said it best:
So if they make the playoffs but get bounced before the ECF you want him fired.
You would look to fire a 3rd year coach with a winning record who has made the playoffs two out of three seasons? No unreasonable expectations on this board, no sir!
Not unrealistic at all. If the effort was there and the results just weren't showing up this is a totally different conversation.
There's no consistent effort. When you need the points in a shortened season and you can't put away a drowning team like the Sabres (Miller's strong game aside) then there are issues. Something isn't working in TB. Is it Boucher or is it the team? I don't know. What makes these guys constantly look for pretty passes instead of passing up shots?
I understand Boucher isn't out there making the passes but he is the coach of this team and I personally still see the issues on the ice. The mistakes aren't being corrected.
This is of course not to say Cooper is going to come in and lead the team to the cup but everything I've read and everything I've seen this guy produce with our boys in the AHL, I am 100% in favor for bringing him in.
i can't read this thread anymore. I'm sorry guys but firing Boucher is not the answer, some bounces and time are. This is not a stanley cup contender, hell we arent even a top 4 team in the East right now. I know it sucks but be patient, I hate when they lose just as much as everyone but to say the effort isnt there confuses me. If they burry 2-3 more chances that they have had per game we arent even having this conversation.
We are still clouded by the teams hot start. We are at best a 6-8 seed in the east right now.
i can't read this thread anymore. I'm sorry guys but firing Boucher is not the answer, some bounces and time are. This is not a stanley cup contender, hell we arent even a top 4 team in the East right now. I know it sucks but be patient, I hate when they lose just as much as everyone but to say the effort isnt there confuses me. If they burry 2-3 more chances that they have had per game we arent even having this conversation.
We are still clouded by the teams hot start. We are at best a 6-8 seed in the east right now.
Completely disagree. We are way too talented. We should be running away with this pathetic division, and instead we're just embarassing.
I don't see a problem with the effort. I see a problem with consistent effort. The losses aren't blowouts for the most part, we're talking quite a few 1-2 goal losses(disregard ENG).
I'm hitched to SFY for as long as he's our GM. He's much better qualified than I am to make decisions regarding this team. That said, I can't stand what Jean has done with goalies.
