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02-11-2013, 12:11 PM
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Brian Dumoulin

How has he looked this season?

I know early on he was playing well but has his play tailed off lately?

He's missed getting a call up to the big club in favour of a guy who has less potential than him (Bortuzzo) and a guy who is several years younger than him (Morrow)

With that in mind when do you expect Dumo to get a chance with the Pens?

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How has he looked this season?

I know early on he was playing well but has his play tailed off lately?

He's missed getting a call up to the big club in favour of a guy who has less potential than him (Bortuzzo) and a guy who is several years younger than him (Morrow)

With that in mind when do you expect Dumo to get a chance with the Pens?

You have to remember something: Robert Bortuzzo was not only a highly accomplished and complete player at the AHL level (he was voted to the all-star game in his 2nd season two years ago, for example), but he also is passed his ELC and would have had to clear waivers (which he wouldn't have) to go down. This kid has nothing more to accomplish at the AHL level and deserves to make the jump.

Also, regarding Bortuzzo: perhaps you haven't been watching him play, but this kid has been absolutely FANTASTIC since being inserted into the line-up. He's 6'4 and well over 200, but he looks even bigger and has an exceptionally long-reach, so he plays almost more like he's 6'5 or 6'6 in that regard. He has shown us excellent skating ability for his size, a willingness to fight and be physical, is not at all intimidated by anyone in the NHL, has surprisingly good vision and passing ability, and even some decent offensive instincts and judgements as when to join the rush. This guy is unheralded, basically because he wasn't a high pick, but everyone in the Pens' organization is VERY high on this guy -- and expect him to be part of our top-4 or 5 Dmen for the next decade. He has the potential to be almost our version of a Dan Girardi as he develops (though with less offense but more physicality & size) Seriously, watch him if you haven't.


Regarding Dumoulin: he has been everything we would ask for as a player. Probably would have made most other teams to start the season, but with the Pens' depth and being new to our organization, they chose to have him stay with WBS and bring up Despres instead. But Dumoulin has been a top-4 Dman in WBS, has been one of our most steady and solid Dmen down there, and is getting significant time on the PP unit (1st PP unit, actually) and PK time, as well. There has been virtually no noticable adjustment and learning curve for him, and he has stepped right in and become not only one of our best, but also most consistent Dmen. He definitely will not need more than one season in WBS, and many of us Pens fans are expecting that he will:

(A) either be in our starting 6 next season, possibly taking the place of Martin, Orpik or Niskanen (at least one or two will have to be moved to get us down to the cap and also bring us some help at forward)

(B) be used as the centrepiece of a trade for either an established young or top prospect winger, though if the Pens were to move him it would only be for a winger with legit top-3 or top-6 upside, because Dumoulin projects to be a top-2 or top-3 Dman. (ie in a package for an established winger like a Ryan/Eriksson type, or Perry if he's traded at the deadline) or for a TOP young forward winer (i.e. Coyle, Niederreiter type prospect).


(and I wouldn't ready anything into Morrow being called up over Dumo, just because it was last minute call-up as insurance in case Orpik couldn't go yesterday. Opik was able to go, and Morrow has already been re-assigned to WBS)

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How has he looked this season?

I know early on he was playing well but has his play tailed off lately?

He's missed getting a call up to the big club in favour of a guy who has less potential than him (Bortuzzo) and a guy who is several years younger than him (Morrow)

With that in mind when do you expect Dumo to get a chance with the Pens?
I think he will get his chance with the pens if one of Orpik/Martin goes down. Morrow was called up for yesterday's game (and although he didn't play) some speculated that it was him brought up to replace some of Letangs offense. Dumoilin is someone who would probably called up for defensive help. I think he will be pushing for a roster. Spot next year, and depending how he progresses, may get the spot over Bortuzzo/Engelland. If he sticks with WBS next year it would only be because of the penguins defensive depth, not that he isn't playing well. I'd say he should be a d man on most teams bottom pair at least, next year.

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I was impressed with him when I was at a Phantoms vs Pens game about a month ago. Scored a goal as the trailer and played in every situation.

Was more impressed by him than Morrow.

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The consensus is he's been the best Pens D prospect out of the ones in WBS (maybe even WBS best Dman). He's ahead of Morrow right now in terms of development, he's a big boy, very calm and used to playing against men.

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The consensus is he's been the best Pens D prospect out of the ones in WBS (maybe even WBS best Dman). He's ahead of Morrow right now in terms of development, he's a big boy, very calm and used to playing against men.

Yes. And a lot of us Pens fan envision a D-corps that includes Despres, Dumoulin and Bortuzzo (all 6'4, 200+lbs) bringing us a ton of size & strength on the blueline for years to come, along with our #1 Norris candidate Letang. The final 2 spots would be filled by whoever emerges best out of the group of Pouliot/Morrow/Harrington/Maatta.


The Pens are in the fortunate position of not having to rush these guys in and not having major turnover of too many players at the same time. This year, it has been Despres and Bortuzzo making the jump. Next year, I believe Dumoulin is the primary candidate to make the jump to the NHL, with Morrow & Harrington also knocking on the door.


The only way this plan changes is if one of the above mentioned guys gets moved out in a trade for a forward. And while that is very possible, it's also equally (if not more) possible that we will instead look to move veterans like Orpik, Martin and the resurgent Niskanen out in trades for help up front, with our younger guys stepping into those spots.


edit: p.s. as Craig Button said at the time of the trade, Brian Dumoulin has the very real chance to emerge as the best player the Pens received in the Staal trade (even ahead of Sutter and Derick Pouliot). And while it will be some years before we can make that conclusion, there has been nothing that Dumoulin has done that would change that way of thinking. He looks like he could very well be a top-pairing, minute-munching Dman for us for a lot of years; and certainly should have the trade value around the league to bring in a top-tier young winger for that very reason, if we chose to trade him.


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