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02-21-2013, 06:51 PM
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I'm stoked the board let burke go before he attempted to trade away the future for luongo. We all know if Burke stuck around...we'd be watching connolly, komisarek, luongo this season.... The change in leadership has been very positive for us.

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02-21-2013, 06:52 PM
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What? So your logic is that Burke made mistakes in negotiations; but in a crazy plot twist, it wasn't Burke who did any of the negotiating

you don't understand when someone is cracking a joke on the board. ps - love the emoticons....

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02-21-2013, 06:54 PM
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Why would Burke being a scout in Anaheim do anything to affect Kessel in Toronto?

Man, people will grasp at anything, logic be damned
I think pro-scout is only his title but that he will help out in other ways as well. I dont know how his contract situation with TML is currently and if it is something in it that say he will not get money from his deal if he finds another job as a GM or similar but that he is allowed to have minor roles at another franchise after getting fired. But my guess is that there is such a clausal.

To be honest, I wish him all the best but at the same time he is a guy who have a lot of insight in our draft targets as well as potential trades and he takes all that knowledge to Anaheim. Hopefully that does not come back to bite us at trade deadline or at the draft.

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I'm sure the Ducks hate the idea of bringing back the GM who was responsible for them winning the cup? The hate is strong with this one.

Good on the Ducks, and best of luck to Brian. Biggest mistake MLSE has made in a long time, is firing Burke.
i strongly disagree - and can say we sit on different sides of the fence. Lastly, "hate" is a strong word. I just saw Burke as an ignornat, egotistical, flamboyment general manager that failed at rebuilding the leafs .... and made too many bad decisions (wilson/kessel trade = would get anyone fired anywhere on any team).

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02-21-2013, 06:58 PM
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Wonder if Leafs asked him to leave or Anaheim wanted him?

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02-21-2013, 07:06 PM
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Is anyone surprised the other 29 clubs weren't beating down the door to sign this man as a GM. From the penthouse at about 3 million per year to scout. Hmmm tells us what everybody else really thinks about him.

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02-21-2013, 07:08 PM
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I'm stoked the board let burke go before he attempted to trade away the future for luongo. We all know if Burke stuck around...we'd be watching connolly, komisarek, luongo this season.... The change in leadership has been very positive for us.
umm ... no

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02-21-2013, 07:09 PM
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Is anyone surprised the other 29 clubs weren't beating down the door to sign this man as a GM. From the penthouse at about 3 million per year to scout. Hmmm tells us what everybody else really thinks about him.
Why would an owner fire his GM just because BB was fired?

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02-21-2013, 08:01 PM
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umm ... no
We'd at least be watching 2 of the 3. While I'm not sold he was going to go all in on Luongo, I'm fairly sure we wouldn't have seen Connolly or Lombardi moved off the main roster. Like we saw with Wilson "loyalty to a fault" really did mean to a fault.

Still question the reasons he was let go, but the result I'm perfectly fine with.

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02-21-2013, 08:20 PM
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you don't understand when someone is cracking a joke on the board. ps - love the emoticons....
Didn't see a joke. Just a convoluted train of thought, which I assume to be rationalization of your hate for Brian Burke.

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02-21-2013, 08:48 PM
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We'd at least be watching 2 of the 3. While I'm not sold he was going to go all in on Luongo, I'm fairly sure we wouldn't have seen Connolly or Lombardi moved off the main roster. Like we saw with Wilson "loyalty to a fault" really did mean to a fault.

Still question the reasons he was let go, but the result I'm perfectly fine with.
Connolly is in the A because of RC. Nothing to do with Nonis or Burke.

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02-21-2013, 08:49 PM
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Why would an owner fire his GM just because BB was fired?
Because Burke is a star GM.









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I hate the guy personally, but the Van Riemsdyk deal is looking like absolute highway robbery at this point.

Like him or not, this is still his team. He built it from the ground up and it's now sitting in a playoff position. Firing him this early was a disaster. He should have been given this season at the very least.

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02-21-2013, 09:44 PM
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I'm stoked the board let burke go before he attempted to trade away the future for luongo. We all know if Burke stuck around...we'd be watching connolly, komisarek, luongo this season.... The change in leadership has been very positive for us.
1 player on this team wasn't acquired or resigned by Burke. That is it.
Give credit where credit is due.

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"The Anaheim Ducks on Thursday named Brian Burke to a part-time professional scouting position with the organization."

Just like JFJ when he left.

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02-21-2013, 10:11 PM
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I'm stoked the board let burke go before he attempted to trade away the future for luongo. We all know if Burke stuck around...we'd be watching connolly, komisarek, luongo this season.... The change in leadership has been very positive for us.
Let me guess, you have been a Burke hater for quite a while and now you refuse to change your opinion on the man because you cannot accept that you, and many others, were wrong. This is Burke's team. He put the pieces and the current coach in place. Coaches choose who plays, not the GM. Not to mention, Burke stuck by and continually supported his young guys even when they weren't play well (ie. Riemer).

Oh, and how do you know Luongo would be here if Burke was still here? Can you read the future/alternative realities? Surprised you aren't ruling the world with these psychic powers.

Burke's main flaw was his loyalty towards Ron Wilson and it cost him his job.

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02-21-2013, 10:16 PM
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Let me guess, you have been a Burke hater for quite a while and now you refuse to change your opinion on the man because you cannot accept that you, and many others, were wrong. This is Burke's team. He put the pieces and the current coach in place. Coaches choose who plays, not the GM. Not to mention, Burke stuck by and continually supported his young guys even when they weren't play well (ie. Riemer).

Oh, and how do you know Luongo would be here if Burke was still here? Can you read the future/alternative realities? Surprised you aren't ruling the world with these psychic powers.

Burke's main flaw was his loyalty towards Ron Wilson and it cost him his job.
Who is this? Pretty angry stuff. Sounds familiar.

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02-21-2013, 10:19 PM
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Who is this? Pretty angry stuff. Sounds familiar.
Not angry lol, just tired of people not giving credit where credit is due and blindly assuming things.

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02-21-2013, 10:21 PM
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Connolly is in the A because of RC. Nothing to do with Nonis or Burke.
Burke signed him to a contract with the Leafs and it was an idiotic idea..

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02-21-2013, 10:43 PM
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Burke signed him to a contract with the Leafs and it was an idiotic idea..
It was a short-term stop-gap measure. Didn't end up helping us much, but didn't and won't hurt us long-term.

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02-21-2013, 10:49 PM
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It was a short-term stop-gap measure. Didn't end up helping us much, but didn't and won't hurt us long-term.
That money on our cap could have been used on guys like Semin and made us a good playoff team but instead its making the Marlies worse.

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1 player on this team wasn't acquired or resigned by Burke. That is it.
Give credit where credit is due.
as burke said himself, nonis handled the trades, dont give burke too much credit

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02-21-2013, 10:53 PM
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1 player on this team wasn't acquired or resigned by Burke. That is it.
Give credit where credit is due.
Yeah but where he loses a lot of credit is with regards to all the screw ups and mistakes that have cost the Leafs. And he also got a good amount of help with the pieces left over from the past.

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02-21-2013, 10:56 PM
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people say its Burke's team but one thing Nonis did do is play the deserving guys. if burke was still here connolly would be still up cause of Burke loyal to players and that is his undoing not cutting bait on guys he brought in

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That money on our cap could have been used on guys like Semin and made us a good playoff team but instead its making the Marlies worse.
No interest in having a passenger like Semin on a developing team, especially if the risk of a long-term contract was involved. I'd much rather live with the consequences of 2 years or less of Connolly.

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