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Oliver Kylington vs Jeremy Roy

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10-17-2014, 08:49 PM
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Oliver Kylington vs Jeremy Roy

Looked for a similar thread, couldn't find one.

Don't know much about either of these guys, so what are their similarities/differences/projections?

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10-17-2014, 10:28 PM
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Haven't seen Kylington but Jeremy Roy reminds me alot of Doughty. Smart, poised, can skate the puck out of the zone or pass from zone to zone, along with a great skating ability and offensive skill-set. He isn't an OFD IMO, he's more of a two-way defenceman because his defence is actually really good. Even with forecheckers trying to get on him he can accelerate out of pressure or spin off a check and start skating or pass it out of the zone.

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10-17-2014, 11:03 PM
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Kylington AINEC

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10-17-2014, 11:44 PM
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Kylington AINEC
You can't say INEC.

Roy has everything you want in a defenseman. Really, really high hockey IQ with great skills. All-around defenseman who's great offensively and defensively.

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10-18-2014, 01:20 AM
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You can't say INEC.

Roy has everything you want in a defenseman. Really, really high hockey IQ with great skills. All-around defenseman who's great offensively and defensively.
Agreed, however Kylington Offense is >Roy's, and skating isn't close... Kylington has Karlsson like skating ability. At this time it's still Kylington for me, but that could change.

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10-18-2014, 01:51 AM
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You can't say INEC.

Roy has everything you want in a defenseman. Really, really high hockey IQ with great skills. All-around defenseman who's great offensively and defensively.
If Roy has everything you want to in a Dman than Kylingtonin might be everything +...

Doubt you find someone that have seen them both lately, but Kylington size, skating and playing in a better ligue give him the edge right now that why he is consider Top 5 and Roy is more top 15... All that could change but I think it Kylington > Roy in most people mind.

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10-18-2014, 02:22 AM
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Kylington AINEC
oh yes it is. My sense is that by the actual draft it will be entirely unclear which of Kylington or Roy should go first.

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10-18-2014, 09:33 AM
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If Roy has everything you want to in a Dman than Kylingtonin might be everything +...

Doubt you find someone that have seen them both lately, but Kylington size, skating and playing in a better ligue give him the edge right now that why he is consider Top 5 and Roy is more top 15... All that could change but I think it Kylington > Roy in most people mind.
Yeah, fair enough. You can definetely make a case to that Kylington first.

I'll be honest, I haven't seen a lot of Kylington, but My point was I doubt INEC since Roy is one of the best defenseman prospect I've seen, he's the complete package and the real deal on the backend.

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10-18-2014, 09:36 AM
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Kylington AINEC
I'm guessing you haven't watched either play, but it's the internet, you could come back and say you've seen both mulitple times! ... Anyways...

I think the 2015 draft is going to have a bunch of surprises... Besides the top 3, I could see 4 - 10 (maybe more) changing quite a bit! Both great defenders with high IQ.

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10-18-2014, 09:38 AM
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From my initial viewings it's pretty close. Roy is a puck-mover, Kylington is an offensive defenseman. Roy has better instincts to control the game than Kylington does, however the skating ability + the skillset makes Kylington a bigger weapon. Roy is the engine, Kylington is the dagger. At this point in time I favor Roy slightly more.

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10-18-2014, 09:39 AM
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From what I've seen,
Kylington: raw Hedman but with more offensive instincts.
J. Roy: Alex Pietrangelo

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10-18-2014, 02:35 PM
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From my initial viewings it's pretty close. Roy is a puck-mover, Kylington is an offensive defenseman. Roy has better instincts to control the game than Kylington does, however the skating ability + the skillset makes Kylington a bigger weapon. Roy is the engine, Kylington is the dagger. At this point in time I favor Roy slightly more.
This.

I haven't seen near enough of Kylington, but why is he talked about as having "size", he's 6'0" tall, same as Roy.

His skating is amazing from what little I've seen, but Roy is a smarter player. SHL vs CHL doesn't matter to me, the league may be better, but that alone doens't make a better prospect.

I find Kylington a hair overrated, I need to see more obviously, as that's not a popular opinion, and I'm probably just under exposed to him.

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I've seen 2 games of Roy, so here's my opinion: pointless speculation

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10-18-2014, 05:48 PM
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I view it as Karlsson lite vs Doughty lite. It's mostly about preference, because they play different games.

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From my initial viewings it's pretty close. Roy is a puck-mover, Kylington is an offensive defenseman. Roy has better instincts to control the game than Kylington does, however the skating ability + the skillset makes Kylington a bigger weapon. Roy is the engine, Kylington is the dagger. At this point in time I favor Roy slightly more.
For what it's worth, Roy is controlling the game vs. U20s whereas Kylington is playing against grown men.

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You can't say INEC.

Roy has everything you want in a defenseman. Really, really high hockey IQ with great skills. All-around defenseman who's great offensively and defensively.
Roy does not have everything you want in a defenseman. He is 6'0". Ideally you want a defenseman much bigger than that

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Roy does not have everything you want in a defenseman. He is 6'0". Ideally you want a defenseman much bigger than that
Duncan Keith is 6 feet too. Can't say I'd want that much more from a dman.

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Roy does not have everything you want in a defenseman. He is 6'0". Ideally you want a defenseman much bigger than that
Thats right. I mean look at first round studs like Boris Valabik and Andy Rodgers.

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Duncan Keith is 6 feet too. Can't say I'd want that much more from a dman.
And ideally you'd like to have Keith a few inches taller

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And ideally you'd like to have Keith a few inches taller
For what? There's a reason he's that mobile. You can't be 6'6" 245 and move around like Keith does. Same goes with Roy. Kid can move out of any situation at will with his mobility.

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All I have to say is the Canucks need to get there hands on one of these guys.

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Kylington has that Swedish ora to him which is a draft trend, cause they all project to he the next Karlsson or Hedman pre-draft, but Roy has all the tools to be a top D man in the league. I can tell you from watching him that he's a mistake free defensmen that sees the game a lot slower than his peers, his hockey IQ is threw the roof.

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Part of me feels that even though they play the same position it is apples to oranges because they play it so differently. Kylington is rated higher because he pops, he has can't miss skills and the ability to be more noticeable in game than McDavid or Eichel. But this is hockey, that pop translates very poorly, making Kylington a very difficult projection. Roy on the other hand is a safe projection. Only his size stands out as a flaw, his strengths are highly transferable. If Kylington can have the intangibles to back-up the noticables, he's a stud. Roy, while he dopes have Norris potential, has a much lower chance at it.

In the end, it's the classic scouting debate, ceiling vs floor.

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For what? There's a reason he's that mobile. You can't be 6'6" 245 and move around like Keith does. Same goes with Roy. Kid can move out of any situation at will with his mobility.
Strawman bro. A few inches taller would be a 6'3 208lbs Duncan Keith.

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Roy does not have everything you want in a defenseman. He is 6'0". Ideally you want a defenseman much bigger than that
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Duncan Keith is 6 feet too. Can't say I'd want that much more from a dman.
This. Won't affect his game at all, IMO.

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Speaking of Roy being 6'0" and this being a flaw. Drew Doughty, PK Subban, Erik Karlsson and Duncan Keith are all 6'0"...

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