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02-12-2013, 01:49 AM
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Vancouver has 16 points. Minny has 13. They play each other tomorrow. A win by Minny puts them only one point behind. Still looks pretty close to me. Edmonton has 13 points for that matter too.
and a win by Vancouver puts Minnesota 5 points behind at the 1/4 mark of the season.

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02-12-2013, 01:52 AM
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Now?

Has been for a few years.
This. It's been the worst division for a while.

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Its not that bad, you have van who is a top 5 in the nhl, then 4 bubble teams 6-10 range imo

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Vancouver has 16 points. Minny has 13. They play each other tomorrow. A win by Minny puts them only one point behind. Still looks pretty close to me. Edmonton has 13 points for that matter too.
Whaaaaaaat?!?! This is no place for mathematics and logic.

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02-12-2013, 01:55 AM
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and a win by Vancouver puts Minnesota 5 points behind at the 1/4 mark of the season.
Which would be amaaaaaazing. Gotta love 4 point games (when they go your way).

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02-12-2013, 01:57 AM
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yes pretty much
calgary, edmonton, colorado are all punching bags to the canucks
minny has given them fits at times though for some reason

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02-12-2013, 01:57 AM
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Minny, Avs and Flames are screwed until they all fire there coaches

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02-12-2013, 02:00 AM
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Minny, Avs and Flames are screwed until they all fire there coaches
The Flames are screwed until ownership (and to a lesser extent the fanbase) realizes they are not going to win anything with that roster. Watching them is almost painful.

The Avs are so banged up. That said, Sacco is an idiot.

Minnesota is young.

Edmonton is young with no defense and no grit.

It's a horrible division.

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02-12-2013, 02:03 AM
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It's a horrid division but still better then the southeast if you look at both divisions as a whole since the Northwest has Vancouver which is an elite team and the Southeast is all bubble or worse teams with the distinct possibility of the team that wins their division only getting into the playoffs due to the guaranteed top three spot.

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02-12-2013, 02:20 AM
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It's a horrid division but still better then the southeast if you look at both divisions as a whole since the Northwest has Vancouver which is an elite team and the Southeast is all bubble or worse teams with the distinct possibility of the team that wins their division only getting into the playoffs due to the guaranteed top three spot.
Pretty much this. NW over the SW on the strength of the Canucks who are a legit top 10 in the league. Last year only a single team from each division made the playoffs, and with the standings as of today (things can change of course) you have the exact same thing. Except of course Vancouver deserves to be in the top 3 while Florida/Carolina are merely the best of the worst that get a gimme. Washington should be the SE's counter to the Canucks but they've fallen far.

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02-12-2013, 02:28 AM
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4 of the teams are in the bottom 10 of the standings, Calgary and Colorado are firmly planted in the bottom 2 with Edmonton heading their way there.

Is this now a worst division than the SE?
NW

Canucks - 16 points (11 GP)
Oilers - 13 points (12 GP)
Wild - 13 points (12 GP)
Flames - 9 points (10 GP)
Avalanche - 9 points (11 GP)

56 GP - 60 PTS

SE

Hurricanes - 13 points (11 GP)
Lightning - 12 points (11 GP)
Jets - 11 points (11 GP)
Panthers - 9 points (11 GP)
Capitals - 7 points (12 GP)

56 GP - 52 PTS

Canucks > Hurricanes
Oilers = Lightning
Wild > Jets
Flames = Panthers
Avalanche < Capitals (considering half the Avs roster is out)

Northwest is better than the Southeast.

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02-12-2013, 02:38 AM
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The Canucks, Wild and Oilers would all currently be leading the southeast.

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02-12-2013, 03:32 AM
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Am I supposed to care what you personally give a crap about?

All I did was point out facts, such as 75% of LA's wins this season have come against playoff rivals. Give a crap or not, it doesn't make my statement false.
I can almost give them a pass this year, considering they won the cup last year. That would demotivate anybody.

What was their excuse last year? And please, please don't say injuries, because the Canucks suffered plenty of those.

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02-12-2013, 03:54 AM
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If this does end up being true (and it's too early to say either way), can we go ahead and make a rule where every thread about it has to call them the Northworst? It's only fair after hearing Southleast at least once a season since its creation.

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02-12-2013, 05:24 AM
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Southeast is the worst imo.

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02-12-2013, 06:35 AM
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As an Oilers fan Canucks are absolutely an elite team and it's not because they play in a ****ty division. They play an actual system and have elite players at every position. You don't how terrified I was that they would win the Cup the last couple of years especially 2011. Their "window" is slowly closing but they're not a team people should be surprised by if they win it all. It's not like they are the only team that benefits from their weak division, the other elite teams in the west still get to feast on the NW four times in an 82-game season.

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02-12-2013, 06:58 AM
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The Canucks, Wild and Oilers would all currently be leading the southeast.
First of all, no they wouldn't. Carolina would be ahead of both the Wild and Oilers based on GP.

But even then, that kind of thing is irrelevant during seasons when there is no interconference play. The standings are based on 2 exclusive groups of opponents.

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02-12-2013, 07:00 AM
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You already know the answer.

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OK Let's try this again.

Is Vancouver a Top 5 Team? Is the NW now the worst Division? aaaaaand GO!

(keep it on topic this time)

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The Avs are so banged up. That said, Sacco is an idiot.
Quite true.

It's sad when fans of other teams start to recognize your team's problems before management makes any attempts to rectify the situation.

Worst part is that they will likely let Sacco finish out his 2-year contract now given our injuries by citing that he didn't have a healthy roster to work with this year.

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02-12-2013, 09:07 AM
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Northbest is better than the Southleast.

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02-12-2013, 09:19 AM
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It's certainly the worst in the West. It's hard to compare to the East though as the rest of the NW has to play Vancouver so much which depresses their actual records. There's no team in the SE that dominates the division right now like the Canucks do.
If one team completely dominates the rest of the division, that division as a whole is stronger? How does that make any sense?

Wouldn't the division be stronger if there are at least 2-3 teams that could win the division (ala: the Atlantic, the Central, etc)?

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02-12-2013, 10:02 AM
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Flames will rebound.

Half the Avs roster is injured.
I'm not so sure. Backlund was a driving force in the Flames wins and he's gone 4-6 weeks. The rest of their centres are awful.

Baertschi and Cammalleri are also still both out - although likely shorter term. And who knows what's going on with Kiprusoff?

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It's pretty weak, but the SE is definitely worse.

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Yeah, it's not the best division but I expect both Minnesota and Edmonton to turn it around eventually this season.

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