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02-12-2013, 09:53 PM
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BJN, I strongly disagree with you. Nash was a major part of the problem here. What does he have this year? Three goals? He would actually be fourth in goals scored on this team! I would take Dubinsky, Anisimov, Erixson and a first round pick over Rick Nash any day of the week. I think the Nash trade will be reviewed in retrospect as one of Howson's best moves.
Nash leads the Rangers in points and had an assist on Hagelin's goal that not a single current Bluejacket player could make.

He was not a part of the problem.

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Priest is no longer running hockey ops, which is what we all wanted, and I couldn't disagree more with you about embarrassing the fanbase.

Since that protest we have hired John Davidson, who appears to be of sound hockey mind to lead us into a new chapter, and now have fired Howson. Am I egotistical enough to believe the FANS protest was a major proponent in any of this? Of course not. But we showed we cared, and now, by the team's actions, they've shown us that we weren't wrong.
Here, here.

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BJN, I strongly disagree with you. Nash was a major part of the problem here. What does he have this year? Three goals? He would actually be fourth in goals scored on this team! I would take Dubinsky, Anisimov, Erixson and a first round pick over Rick Nash any day of the week. I think the Nash trade will be reviewed in retrospect as one of Howson's best moves.
As is your right, Nash had 2 40+ goal seasons, and 5 30+ goal season....he did his part, management failed to put a good team around him. I'll fully agree he wasnt a good captain, but Howson put him in that position because there were no other options. I would take Nash and competent management over those 3 any day of the week.

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Nash leads the Rangers in points and had an assist on Hagelin's goal that not a single current Bluejacket player could make.

He was not a part of the problem.
Nash had to go after he asked out.

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As is your right, Nash had 2 40+ goal seasons, and 5 30+ goal season....he did his part, management failed to put a good team around him. I'll fully agree he wasnt a good captain, but Howson put him in that position because there were no other options. I would take Nash and competent management over those 3 any day of the week.
Ah, but you can't have BOTH. The Blue Jackets can either have one or the other.

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Wasn't Nash -4 on the night?

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Priest is no longer running hockey ops, which is what we all wanted, and I couldn't disagree more with you about embarrassing the fanbase.

Since that protest we have hired John Davidson, who appears to be of sound hockey mind to lead us into a new chapter, and now have fired Howson. Am I egotistical enough to believe the FANS protest was a major proponent in any of this? Of course not. But we showed we cared, and now, by the team's actions, they've shown us that we weren't wrong.
Well said P.

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Nash had to go after he asked out.
I have to think he asked out because he was sick of losing and incompetent management

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Strong speculation Finnish born Jarko Kekalainen will be named new GM of #CBJ. If so he would be 1st fill time European GM in #NHL history

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Nash leads the Rangers in points and had an assist on Hagelin's goal that not a single current Bluejacket player could make.

He was not a part of the problem.

Foligno waves hello.

Not saying he could do it 95 times out of a hundred, but that end to end that he just missed scoring on last night was a thing of beauty. It was sick sick sick by Nick Nick Nick.

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Wasn't Nash -4 on the night?
No, -1, had the assist and shoot out goal

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Nash had to go after he asked out.
Yes, I agree, and I never said anything to the contrary.

As a Rangers fan I am extremely happy with that move.

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Who's Rick Nash?

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I was here on this historic day.

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Who's Rick Nash?
The 5th GM of the Columbus Blue Jackets

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I have to think he asked out because he was sick of losing and incompetent management
Exactly. At that point in time either Howson had to be let go, or he would be left in place to trade Nash and attempt to rebuild the Jackets, which is what happened pre JD hiring. I take it you're for JD against losing Nash?

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I appreciate what Nash did for the CBJ and Columbus. However, Nash is so yesterday. I wish him well.

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I have a feeling having JD here is going to be like having Urban Meyer in Columbus. Fans are going to have a tough time adjusting to greatness and winning.

Next thing you know, we'll be in the Eastern Conference and in the playoffs next year.




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Exactly. At that point in time either Howson had to be let go, or he would be left in place to trade Nash and attempt to rebuild the Jackets, which is what happened pre JD hiring. I take it you're for JD against losing Nash?
Obviously letting Howson go would have been the correct choice since thats what inevitably happened. So ownership was dumb enough to let him trade the teams best asset. Not sure what youre asking with the question, but I wish Davidson would have had the choice on whether Nash stayed or went. Revisionist history.... sure, but with decisions like that, just shows why we've been the losers of the league with ownership/management of the past 11 years

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Okay, this pisses me off even more than the fan protest crap. Are people really so blind in their hatred that they're willing to assume that Howson would deliberately avoid suggesting a guy who could (and did) end up removing him just for his own sake?

Are we really so determined, so overwhelmingly dependent on a need to have a Bad Guy to cast into the fires of hell that we need to have a guy who demonstrated his willingness to put the organization ahead of himself have those very actions questioned as to their legitimacy and accuracy?

Holy Living ****, people. This is downright despicable.
. Wow, talk about reading **** into posts that aren't there!! No one does it better!

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Priest is no longer running hockey ops, which is what we all wanted
No, I believe the call was explicitly for him to be fired. Nobody was willing to go halfway - at least, nobody that was willing to actually speak up.

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and I couldn't disagree more with you about embarrassing the fanbase.
When you get harassing emails, PMs, and chat messages, then you can talk to me about whether or not it was an embarrassing time. Already getting not-so-subtle jabs like that in here.

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Am I egotistical enough to believe the FANS protest was a major proponent in any of this? Of course not.
Congrats. You'd be the first I've ever seen, and I've been looking. Every other interaction I've seen with folks who supported that protest have ascribed to it everything from the Patrick hiring to the timing of the ASG announcement.

Seriously. We've already had folks in this thread saying that the protest was directly responsible for making both actions happen. And the only person here - the only one - objecting to that nonsense is me. Given the observed, recorded history of "F.A.N.S." supporters, what the heck am I supposed to believe?

Normally I assume that there's sane members of any given subgroup that are willing to tell the crazies to stop being crazy. But I have never seen this with the protesters - and so far what I've seen in this thread continues to justify that.

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But we showed we cared, and now, by the team's actions, they've shown us that we weren't wrong.
Yeah. Folks cared enough to start making repeated personal attacks against other fans. Such a glorious, glorious time.

I'm sorry, but there is no way in which I will ever suggest that that protest was a good thing.

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Holy hyperbole!

Was that cross off the rack or custom-fit?
I don't come up with the hyperbole, I merely predict it. We've seen even crazier before.

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. Wow, talk about reading **** into posts that aren't there!! No one does it better!
These are folks suggesting that one of Howson's more constructive actions (which we can ALL agree on) suddenly couldn't possibly be ascribed to Howson, out of some assumption that he'd be a selfish craven *******. What the hell kind of other reading IS there?

I'd love to hear alternatives.

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I vote for McFarland
... for dog catcher.

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