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If they want Brian Burke from us, are we entitled to any compensation? As I recall, we gave Anaheim the 37th pick in the 2009 draft to get Burke, correct?

We might be in line for a high second. Can anyone say parting gift?

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Darren Dreger says that John Ferguson Jr is a candidate for the GM job
Mike Kostka for Ryan Murray...

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If they want Brian Burke from us, are we entitled to any compensation? As I recall, we gave Anaheim the 37th pick in the 2009 draft to get Burke, correct?

We might be in line for a high second. Can anyone say parting gift?
Brian Burke being the egotistical and media-loving manager he is probably doesnt view the GM job of the Columbus Blue Jackets as a good career move for himself.

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Brian Burke would be a solid choice.

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Brian Burke being the egotistical and media-loving manager he is probably doesnt view the GM job of the Columbus Blue Jackets as a good career move for himself.
Well, he'd be right, since that job requires a ton of very un-glamorous patience.

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I can not see the fit for Burke there under Davidson.....JFJ is an interesting Candidate.

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If I was Burke, I would hold out till a better job opens up somewhere else.

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Darren Dreger says that John Ferguson Jr is a candidate for the GM job
I'm crossing my fingers hoping he gets the job. Truly.

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It scares me knowing Burke could end up GM for another team. He has a long history of signing or trading for "his" players. I mean sure, if Leafs win the trade then great.. but he's not exactly known for losing a lot of trades outside of the Kessel trade. I wouldn't want Burke circling our team with guys like Kadri, Frattin, Rielly, Gardiner, Kessel, Phaneuf, Kulemin, etc on his radar.

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It scares me knowing Burke could end up GM for another team. He has a long history of signing or trading for "his" players. I mean sure, if Leafs win the trade then great.. but he's not exactly known for losing a lot of trades outside of the Kessel trade. I wouldn't want Burke circling our team with guys like Kadri, Frattin, Rielly, Gardiner, Kessel, Phaneuf, Kulemin, etc on his radar.
I dunno, he might be able to turn a cast off into a useful part, but it's not like he brought Perry and Getzlaf and Ryan to Toronto...

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It scares me knowing Burke could end up GM for another team. He has a long history of signing or trading for "his" players. I mean sure, if Leafs win the trade then great.. but he's not exactly known for losing a lot of trades outside of the Kessel trade. I wouldn't want Burke circling our team with guys like Kadri, Frattin, Rielly, Gardiner, Kessel, Phaneuf, Kulemin, etc on his radar.
Nonis can hold his own... Maybe we trade Gardiner and Lupul for a defencemen.

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According to Kypreos, it could be Jarmo Kekkalainen... would be huge to see the 1st European GM take over an NHL franchise, and I think he'd be an amazing choice given his amazing history with the Blues.

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According to Kypreos, it could be Jarmo Kekkalainen... would be huge to see the 1st European GM take over an NHL franchise, and I think he'd be an amazing choice given his amazing history with the Blues.
But to be fair, the Blues haven't accomplished anything outside of one great year...

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Not enough microphones in Columbus for Burke
Not enough $$s, plus they already have a president

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There aren't many positives to be taking over that job.

The only ones that I can think of are:

1. Low expectations

2. 3 first round picks in this upcoming draft.


There are a lot of brutal contracts on that roster and no really cornerstones to build around.

I'm a fan of Jack Johnson, Nick Foligno, Ryan Murray and Boone Jenner.

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If they want Brian Burke from us, are we entitled to any compensation? As I recall, we gave Anaheim the 37th pick in the 2009 draft to get Burke, correct?

We might be in line for a high second. Can anyone say parting gift?
No you aren't correct. Under the last CBA no compensation was allowed if a member of management was signed by another team. We lost the 2009 2nd as part of the trade to move up to get Schenn. Dont know how the pick ended up getting traded to the Ducks.

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Burke loves having all control when he is a gm. Not being GM & President would not sit well with him, he is the guy who does not like to have to ask for permission to do something.

Jarmo: Did good work with the Blues and is on excellent terms with CBJ President JD. Most likely candidate.

Ron Hextall: Heard tweets of some interest in Ronnie getting an interview but I highly doubt they will take him in.

JFJ: If you thought their last two gms were bad, for CBJ sake I hope to god they don't hire this man.

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Maybe if Burke is hired Nonis will be able to get a good deal on....


....wait a minute its Colombus
They do have some attractive pieces in their organization.

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No you aren't correct. Under the last CBA no compensation was allowed if a member of management was signed by another team. We lost the 2009 2nd as part of the trade to move up to get Schenn. Dont know how the pick ended up getting traded to the Ducks.
Im lost... Leafs traded the pick to the Isles to move up to get Schenn. Isles traded the pick along with a first to the Jackets to move up to 16 (then the Isle moved up from the to 12 to get de Hann). Then Columbus traded the the pick and the 26th overall pick to Anaheim for the 21st overall pick to get John Moore and a 3rd round pick.

The Pick: TOR - NYI - CBJ - ANA

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* The Toronto Maple Leafs' second-round pick went to the Anaheim Ducks as the result of a trade on June 26, 2009 that sent a first-round pick (#21 overall) in 2009 to Columbus in exchange for a first-round pick (#26 overall) in 2009 and this pick.[6]
Columbus previously acquired this pick as the result of a trade on June 26, 2009 that sent a first-round pick (#16 overall) in 2009 and a third-round pick (#77 overall) in 2009 to the NY Islanders in exchange for a first-round pick (#26 overall) in 2009, a third-round pick (#62 overall) in 2009, a fourth-round pick (#92 overall) in 2009 and this pick.[6]
New York previously acquired this pick as the result of a trade on June 20, 2008 that sent a first-round pick in 2008 to Toronto in exchange for a first-round pick in 2008, a third-round pick in 2008 and this pick.[11]


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Columbus has a decent fanbase actually, just have had piss poor managment for years.

Burke isn't afraid to make some risky moves and has made some solid trades, he's a good fit.

plus he has 3 1st rounders in a deep draft this year, that's a great start.
Burke isn't a great drafter though. He would need time to build a strong scouring network, which he wouldn't get.

My thoughts though after the Flyers game was that some team doubting in their GM was going to dust off the guillotine soon... Didn't even take a week...

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Burke isn't a great drafter though. He would need time to build a strong scouring network, which he wouldn't get.

My thoughts though after the Flyers game was that some team doubting in their GM was going to dust off the guillotine soon... Didn't even take a week...
How is he a bad drafter?

a guy he drafted is a PPG player with us this year(Kadri).

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be nice if Burke is hired

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Burke and Davidson would work well

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