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02-13-2013, 10:40 AM
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Rinaldo to me is quicker and a lot tougher. Carcillo would drop the gloves, but Rinaldo drops the gloves, hammers people with huge hits and doesn't dive.
Carcillo is not in the same league as Rinaldo in my opinion. There's a real the kid always makes the lineup. He's much smarter than Carcillo. I rarely see him called for bad penalties. Usually he gets weak calls because of his name. That's his only downside in my opinion.

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02-13-2013, 10:42 AM
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Completely disagree. By far the most tamed goon we've ever had. Hits like a truck, knows how to fight, and can play the PK and Block shots. The kid is definitely an NHL player anyone who thinks otherwise has not watched him play enough.
Not very well.

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02-13-2013, 10:44 AM
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I hated him since the day he was in the OHL, he can throw some questionable hits. Sometimes he will pick his spots when it comes to fights.


I'm not 100% on this action, but didn't he decline an invitation from Anthony Peluso yesterday? Perhaps it was the wrong time to fight?


Although, he can throw some huge hits.
Peluso is out of his weight class, that's for sure.

Peluso: 6'3 220 lbs

Rinaldo: 5'11 180 lbs

He kind of goaded Peluso, an anxious rookie in his 1st NHL game, to drop the gloves but he didn't. Took advantage of his 1st game anxiousness.

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02-13-2013, 10:48 AM
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Peluso is out of his weight class, that's for sure.

Peluso: 6'3 220 lbs

Rinaldo: 5'11 180 lbs

He kind of goaded Peluso, an anxious rookie in his 1st NHL game, to drop the gloves but he didn't. Took advantage of his 1st game anxiousness.

Size is irrelevant, but I do agree Zac Rinaldo wouldn't stand a chance with Anthony Peluso. The way that Zac Rinaldo plays, he's going to be expected to drop the gloves occasionally, even if it's a heavyweight challenging him.

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Peluso is out of his weight class, that's for sure.

Peluso: 6'3 220 lbs

Rinaldo: 5'11 180 lbs

He kind of goaded Peluso, an anxious rookie in his 1st NHL game, to drop the gloves but he didn't. Took advantage of his 1st game anxiousness.
I actually think that's a perfect example of what Rinaldo has learned over the past 2 seasons. He's the smartest goon I've seen in a Flyers uniform since 2000.

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02-13-2013, 10:50 AM
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He's young and needs to learn the fine line between passion and controlling emotion.

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02-13-2013, 10:51 AM
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Actually he is! If he could get away with ending someones career there is little doubt in my mind that he would think twice about it. He is 23 years old and already has a reputation like he does does not look good for his overall tenure in the NHL.
Yeh, you don't know what you're talking about.

Rinaldo is mostly guilty of being over-zealous. He makes the odd bone-headed play but he is not dirty.

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02-13-2013, 10:53 AM
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Size is irrelevant, but I do I agree Zac Rinaldo wouldn't stand a chance with Anthony Peluso. The way that Zac Rinaldo plays, he's going to be expected to drop the gloves occasionally, even if it's a heavyweight challenging him.
Size is irrelevant? Since when? First time I've ever heard that in a hockey conversation.

That's like saying a center in basketball doesn't need to be at least 6'10 foot to be effective.

Fact is, Rinaldo is undersized yet you call him a goon. So far this season he's been very good in his role. I actually expect him to have pretty high trade value for his role.

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02-13-2013, 10:56 AM
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I understand the hate for him, but he is not a dirty player at all. And what is with people saying he's not a good fighter? I'm not his bifggest fan but he definitely can throw em... He's a great fighter for his size. Just because he couldn't fare against somebody like Lucic or Orr doesn't mean he's a bad fighter...

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Size is irrelevant? Since when? First time I've ever heard that in a hockey conversation.

That's like saying a center in basketball doesn't need to be at least 6'10 foot to be effective.

Fact is, Rinaldo is undersized yet you call him a goon. So far this season he's been very good in his role. I actually expect him to have pretty high trade value for his role.

When it comes to fighting, it sometimes does. Look at Jon Mirasty, he was one of the better fighters in the AHL and he was 5'9".

Deryk Engelland, who's 6'2" 200 LBS is one the best heavyweights in the NHL.

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When it comes to fighting, it sometimes does. Look at Jon Mirasty, he was one of the better fighters in the AHL and he was 5'9".

Deryk Engelland, who's 6'2" 200 LBS is one the best heavyweights in the NHL.
sometimes, doesn't make it irrelevant. I've seen Simmons take down guys much bigger too. But its definitely a fact that a bigger player has the advantage. Reach, strength, weight. Fighting skill and balance are all something that you can practice. The other's are natural attributes.

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02-13-2013, 11:02 AM
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Yeh, you don't know what you're talking about.

Rinaldo is mostly guilty of being over-zealous. He makes the odd bone-headed play but he is not dirty.
So his late hit and slew foot in one game that garnished a fine was not dirty? How about 8 days later when he launched himself into Jonathan Ericsson? Maybe in your little world he is a saint but in the NHL world he is the furthest thing from it.

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02-13-2013, 11:10 AM
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So his late hit and slew foot in one game that garnished a fine was not dirty? How about 8 days later when he launched himself into Jonathan Ericsson? Maybe in you little world he is a saint but in the NHL world he is the furthest thing from it.
Giroux got banned for a headshot against New Jersey, is he a dirty player?

I still don't think the Ericsson hit was that bad. He was looking back at the pass and got creamed. Even the Detroit announcers didn't think it was that bad.

The 'slewfoot' on Carter was more a weird kick than anything else. Still no idea what he was doing.

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Good 4th liner, but is extremely dirty. Pretty much every hit is a charge

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Not very well.
First off, your hate-on for Rinaldo is really apparent, guy.

Second off, he doesn't just drop the glove "occasionally", he fought 12 times last season.

He's fought twice this season and won both fights.

The best part about it is, to people who understand the game, the fighting is just a bonus with Rinaldo. He just gets under people's skin, especially the less-intelligent folk both on the ice and in the stands.

He's like a retaliation machine. I mean, look at yourself right now. You're wasting time *****ing and moaning about a goon. If he's nothing, why do you care?

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Good 4th liner, but is extremely dirty. Pretty much every hit is a charge
Hyperbole usually should invalidate any kind of point, and I really don't think this is any different.

Unless you have proof that "pretty much every hit" is a charge.

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Giroux got banned for a headshot against New Jersey, is he a dirty player?

I still don't think the Ericsson hit was that bad. He was looking back at the pass and got creamed. Even the Detroit announcers didn't think it was that bad.

The 'slewfoot' on Carter was more a weird kick than anything else. Still no idea what he was doing.
You're also forgetting the play where he slewfooted Parise

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The 'slewfoot' on Carter was more a weird kick than anything else. Still no idea what he was doing.
The slewfoot was bad. It was definitely your classic slewfoot. Let's remember that Rinaldo is still very young (and was even more brash then). He's starting to understand where the line is in the NHL and how to push the limits without crossing it.

The earlier comparison of Rinaldo and Carbomb is interesting. Carcillo is a bit better offensively to me, but they both bring similar pluses. That said, Carcillo was a much more veteran player and still making the brain dead mistakes. Rinaldo is showing improvement in that area. If the current trend holds up, Rinaldo will be an effective 4th line player who keeps other teams honest in their checking and provides a model for the level of effort that you need to put into the game.

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plays hard every shift, very effective player if he doesnt take dumb penalties.

5 star thread would read again....not srs

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Why is this guy in the NHL?


'Cause it's fantasy camp?

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Reminds of a younger Pat Kaleta. Kaleta used to be very dirty, always playing right on the line or over it, and hadn't really figured out his role in the NHL other than agitator (Though he was extremely good at it).

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First off, your hate-on for Rinaldo is really apparent, guy.

Second off, he doesn't just drop the glove "occasionally", he fought 12 times last season.

He's fought twice this season and won both fights.

The best part about it is, to people who understand the game, the fighting is just a bonus with Rinaldo. He just gets under people's skin, especially the less-intelligent folk both on the ice and in the stands.

He's like a retaliation machine. I mean, look at yourself right now. You're wasting time *****ing and moaning about a goon. If he's nothing, why do you care?



Hyperbole usually should invalidate any kind of point, and I really don't think this is any different.

Unless you have proof that "pretty much every hit" is a charge.
Against punching bags. I don't understand why you're getting worked up.

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We need a 4th line consisting of Rinaldo and McGinn. That 4th line would crush.

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When Rinaldo fights in the middleweight class he does alright.




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