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02-13-2013, 01:24 PM
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Garth Snow, and the strings leading up to Wangs fingers.

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Our coach coatched a grand total of 14 games with this team this year and last... how can you judge him after that many games?
Our team has been out hitting a lot of the other teams we played this season...
Our centers were all depleted at once and are now almost all healthy.

We'll be okay don't worry about us. If Tambellini doesn't do anything by the end of the season then i will have changed my mind but as of right now Tambellini has done what Katz has wanted of him.
My point wasn't that Krueger is bad. I agree its to early to judge him. My point was this is Tambellini's 3rd coach in 4 years.

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02-13-2013, 01:26 PM
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2 years actually.
LOL sorry, 30th, 30th, 29th.

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Pyatt? lol

Those are players...are ....ok? Big deal. Every team in the league has a grocery list of mediocre talent.

Did you seriously mention Taylor Pyatt? lol
Did you just mention Nash, MacD, Staal, Del Zotto as mediocre talent?

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02-13-2013, 01:28 PM
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LOL sorry, 30th, 30th, 29th.
Mmhmm.


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02-13-2013, 01:28 PM
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While I'm no Tambellini apologist, please tell us how Schultz fell in his lap?

Lowe needs to be fired more than Tambellini needs to be.
Schultz' contract is an ELC. ELC contracts are very rigid; they have a max salary and for high picks, a bonus structure.

The bonus structure is set in such a way that the only way a player can make money (and we're talking a lot of money - almost $3m in bonuses to less than $1m in salary) is by hitting milestones.

Those milestones include ice time, points, all-star game appearances, and finishing in the top-X of award voting (IIRC, it's top-10? could be wrong on that).

Edmonton, having an awful defense and showing no inhibition to giving rookies a ton of ice time, was far and away Schultz's best chance at earning those bonuses.

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02-13-2013, 01:29 PM
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Ummmmm Darcy Regier by a mile, guys. Guy was already the worst even with Howson.

I pity Garth Snow. He's a guy who's absolutely handcuffed by ownership. There is absolutely no organizational desire to have a winning team there. The DiPietro contract is the worst in the NHL, but I don't think you can call a guy the worst GM in the league on that basis alone, and I just can't think of anything else egregious he's done. The Tavares deal is fantastic for them, Grabner was a great pickup, there's just no money to fill out the roster.

Feaster isn't that bad. The problems with the Flames were already there before he took over, he just hasn't managed to plug the holes on a sinking ship. I agree it's idiotic that he didn't immediately start a rebuild when he took over but that is likely an internal mandate that the organization settled on.

As far as the Oilers go, just ask yourself what you would've done differently than Tambellini has since he's been there. Not much.

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02-13-2013, 01:32 PM
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I say Tambellini. As posted, he just seems so thrilled to win the draft lottery year after year. I remember when Devils failed to make the playoffs a few years back, Lou was happy to draft Larsson, however, he was very unhappy missing the playoffs.

Can't believe I'm sticking up for the guy, however, since the NHL implemented cap, Sather has been a good GM.

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02-13-2013, 01:32 PM
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Joe Nieuwendyk is my vote. Tambellini is awful but they're in a rebuild stage and are hard to judge.

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02-13-2013, 01:33 PM
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Tambellini hands down.

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02-13-2013, 01:34 PM
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Sather is a **** GM. Has been for years.

He;s just lucky he's in an attractive market with money to spend.
He's awful with UFAs... But resigning his RFAs and trades are something he excels at. Dude turned Scott Gomez into Ryan McDonagh. I wouldn't put him below Tambellini.

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02-13-2013, 01:35 PM
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Feaster isn't allowed to rebuild it amazes me that all of HF can't get this. He must try and keep his team competing, look at the moves he made in the offseason
Jiri Hudler 8 points in 7 games
Dennis Widemen 7 points in 10 games and has been a very good #3 defensemen
Roman Cervenka 3 points in 7 games

but yea dude sucks

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02-13-2013, 01:37 PM
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My point wasn't that Krueger is bad. I agree its to early to judge him. My point was this is Tambellini's 3rd coach in 4 years.
Quinn shat the bed although he was brought into a bad situation... and Renney had suspect lines, bad decisions and no trust in our kids. I have no problems what so ever about going through that many coaches in that time. Kreuger should be here to stay if he keeps up what he has been doing... and i am fine with that.

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Tambellini is awful but they're in a rebuild stage and are hard to judge.
Tanking, waiting to get 3 1st overall picks in a row and not fixing any of the Oilers many problems: do you call this rebuilding?

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02-13-2013, 01:41 PM
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I say Tambellini. As posted, he just seems so thrilled to win the draft lottery year after year. I remember when Devils failed to make the playoffs a few years back, Lou was happy to draft Larsson, however, he was very unhappy missing the playoffs.
Can't believe I'm sticking up for the guy, however, since the NHL implemented cap, Sather has been a good GM.
Well you are right on that one! Tambellini was ecstatic he missed the playoffs!

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Didn't the Caps win the Presidents Trophy just a few years ago? Nice try, but it can't be him.

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02-13-2013, 01:46 PM
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Tanking, waiting to get 3 1st overall picks in a row and not fixing any of the Oilers many problems: do you call this rebuilding?
2 competant lines now, Justin Schultz, a new coach... things are lokoing alright.

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02-13-2013, 01:48 PM
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I'm going to say Tambellini as well, and here's why:

- Signing Belanger to a 3 year deal (Belanger's 3rd year)
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Tambo: “One of the reasons why he wanted a three year deal is because he sees what’s happening, not next year, in year two and three, and ‘if I’m gonna go there, I wanna be part of that, in year two and three.’”
(That's an awful to sign a 34 year old marginally effective player to a 3 year deal. 57% of players who are 34 are no longer in the NHL by age 36.)

- Cam Barker. He thought he was useful, when he's actually never been an NHL calibre defenseman. (Ryan Whitney / Cam Barker)
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"...but we feel that the addition of Barker, at his age and his experience…that should take some of the weight away from those people that can play those minutes like Whitney and Gilbert and Barker should be able to jump right in there."
(at least he didn't re-sign him!)

- Andy Sutton. (Tambellini on Sutton)
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He expressed a real strong interest in staying in Edmonton; likes the city, likes the direction of the team, and we’re happy he’s back.
(That's why you resigned a guy who is 37 years old, a 6/7 defenseman on one of the worst defensive teams, to a $1.75m deal? Also from that link..)
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We have a much better team than what the results and standings show, we know that.
(You do? Are you sure? ...)

- He thought the Oilers would make the playoffs last year. (Tambellini on playoffs)
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"…thinks they’ve got all of the pieces here to make a run at the playoffs."
(They finished 29th..)


The only season the Oilers were "successful" under Tambellini was in '10-'11 when they were supposed to be awful and were. Every other year he spent to the cap or the teams goals were publicly stated. He made off-season acquisitions to try and improve the team, and yet the Oilers were continually a doormat.

The real reason for optimism going forward (Hall, RNH, Yakupov) is all happened because the team fell backwards into them.

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02-13-2013, 01:51 PM
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While I'm no Tambellini apologist, please tell us how Schultz fell in his lap?

Lowe needs to be fired more than Tambellini needs to be.
Wasnt Edmonton the only Canadian team to guarantee him a roster spot?

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02-13-2013, 01:52 PM
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Gillis signed Barker.

Is he terrible too?

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Feaster isn't allowed to rebuild it amazes me that all of HF can't get this. He must try and keep his team competing, look at the moves he made in the offseason
Jiri Hudler 8 points in 7 games
Dennis Widemen 7 points in 10 games and has been a very good #3 defensemen
Roman Cervenka 3 points in 7 games

but yea dude sucks
Well gee, you really convinced me!

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02-13-2013, 01:57 PM
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Wasnt Edmonton the only Canadian team to guarantee him a roster spot?
No and Schultz made it clear that he wasn't guaranteed anything when talking to the Oilers brass, the spot on the team he has right now is because he earned every second of it.

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Kevin Lowe is the bum in Edmonton...not Tambalini. Do people even follow the Oilers?
This right here, Lowe sunk this team and signed stupid contracts after the cup run then handed the team to Tambo. Not saying Tambo is a great GM but the Oilers problems go higher up then Tambo.

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Garth Snow for sure. At least the Oilers have been developing their top picks properly.

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