HFBoards  

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Philadelphia Flyers
Notices

Rags retires from the NHL

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old
03-19-2005, 10:46 AM
  #26
Dr Love
Registered User
 
Dr Love's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Location, Location!
Posts: 20,379
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by porrylogspop
in two words salary cap, you cant just go out and buy someone elses #1 defenseman. not with a salary cap coming in. i think you guys in the big markets have got to understand that, zhitnik is going to command more then you guys are going to have. at this time you guys are going to have to buy out contracts to get under a cap, let alone go out and buy a #1 d man.
For starters we're not talking about getting a #1 defenseman. And secondly, Zhitnik isn't a true #1 anymore.

Dr Love is offline  
Old
03-19-2005, 12:16 PM
  #27
RoDu
Lord Humongous Big
 
RoDu's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Winnipeg
Country: Canada
Posts: 11,012
vCash: 500
So I guess the defenceman depth chart would go something like this
Johnnson, Desjardins, Markov, Pitkanen, Timander, Seidenberg, various young guys
Only one guy who plays physically, and he's not big, our number two guy is getting long in the tooth, I think it's time to draft many defenceman next time a draft actually happens

RoDu is offline  
Old
03-19-2005, 04:57 PM
  #28
MojoJojo
Registered User
 
MojoJojo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 9,337
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Flyers Fan
I don't think you realize that most of our big money contracts are gone ....
Thats only assuming that current contracts will expire during the lockout. Legally, this is by no means clear. The current labor situation is a lockout, not a strike, which is an important distintction when it comes to this issue. If a player was promised a certain amount of money to play for a season, is ready and willing to play, but the owner prevents him from playing and does not pay him as promised, how can the owner claim the terms of the contract have been honored? There may be a provision for this in the new CBA, but that will have to be negotiatied like everything else, because I dont see such a move surviving the volley of court cases that will undoubtedly follow.

IF that is the case, then obviously it is happy news for the Flyers that we may not be stuck with the rest of Tony Amonte, Jeremy Roenick, John Leclair, and Brian Burke's salaries.

MojoJojo is offline  
Old
03-19-2005, 04:58 PM
  #29
Dr Love
Registered User
 
Dr Love's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Location, Location!
Posts: 20,379
vCash: 500
Phoenix is paying half of (Sean) Burke's salary.

Dr Love is offline  
Old
03-24-2005, 08:12 AM
  #30
dedalus
Registered User
 
dedalus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 7,205
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Love
Phoenix is paying half of (Sean) Burke's salary.
Which raises another good CBA question: how will the cap work in these cases? (Jagr and the money the Caps are paying him comes to mind as another example.)

Is each team's cap burdened with its share of the player's salary, or does the entire cap hit go to the team that holds the player's rights?

dedalus is offline  
Old
03-24-2005, 10:32 AM
  #31
fan mao rong
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: port royal , pa
Posts: 968
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Panasonic Youth
Printz was demoted to Trenton.
Printz was demoted for one game and then brought back.

fan mao rong is offline  
Old
03-24-2005, 10:42 AM
  #32
fan mao rong
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: port royal , pa
Posts: 968
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by MojoJojo
Thats only assuming that current contracts will expire during the lockout. Legally, this is by no means clear. The current labor situation is a lockout, not a strike, which is an important distintction when it comes to this issue. If a player was promised a certain amount of money to play for a season, is ready and willing to play, but the owner prevents him from playing and does not pay him as promised, how can the owner claim the terms of the contract have been honored? There may be a provision for this in the new CBA, but that will have to be negotiatied like everything else, because I dont see such a move surviving the volley of court cases that will undoubtedly follow.

IF that is the case, then obviously it is happy news for the Flyers that we may not be stuck with the rest of Tony Amonte, Jeremy Roenick, John Leclair, and Brian Burke's salaries.
More of the pseudo-legal mumbo jumbo prevalent on here. Yes, it is true it's up for negotiation at some point. The Union can desire that the years on the contracts be honored, they can demand that. They can also demand back pay for the time locked out. That's does not mean they will get either. A lock out is legal. Contracts are dated and normally once that date is past it is expired. The Union can dispute this and demand otherwise, but the league must agree for it to take effect. I predict the league goes to non-NHLPA replacements this upcoming season and the contracts continue to expire, maybe , if the Union continues it's stance, until all the contracts expire. They will have been forced into nothing, so where is their standing to sue? The NLRB can not stop a business from using replacements (see the road to impasse section on the CBC website for more information).

fan mao rong is offline  
Old
03-24-2005, 10:57 AM
  #33
Roger's Pancreas*
 
Roger's Pancreas*'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 13,363
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Roger's Pancreas*
Quote:
Originally Posted by fan mao rong
Printz was demoted for one game and then brought back.
LIAR!!! but seriously, Printz spent two games in Trenton. I think it was intended to get back in game shape after being injured for a few games.

Roger's Pancreas* is offline  
Old
03-30-2005, 12:02 PM
  #34
x-bob
Registered User
 
x-bob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,966
vCash: 50
Is it sure that he is going to retire?

x-bob is offline  
Old
03-30-2005, 01:23 PM
  #35
Robertsson 4-ever
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Wexio
Country: Sweden
Posts: 2,220
vCash: 500
Send a message via ICQ to Robertsson 4-ever
Quote:
Originally Posted by x-bob
Is it sure that he is going to retire?
He has said to swedish media NHL is a closed chapter in his future career, so yes. He'll (probably) spend the rest of his career in Sweden.

Robertsson 4-ever is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:17 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2013 All Rights Reserved.