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03-01-2013, 10:58 AM
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Oh wow imagine the lynching (autocorrect was "lunching" lol) if that happened to Feaster

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Daly confirming no waivers were needed.

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03-01-2013, 11:06 AM
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@CSStockley: @SCrociata @drosennhl @reporterchris Isn't picking on Feaster and the Flames at this point equal to kicking a puppy?

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Great the Canucks claimed Sestito.

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@TSNRyanRishaug: Canucks claimed sestito

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Except they usually want 6.5 cap hit not 6.5mil salary.

As for Feaster, I will say this. It sure took a long time for someone to figure out this loophole. Isn't Sherman even more of an idiot? Depending when waivers were to be held he would've been on of the first teams to have a crack at him on waivers. Would CBJ and WSH have cap space/salary anyway?
Yeah but they still have to pay real salary to someone.

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03-01-2013, 11:13 AM
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Yeah but they still have to pay real salary to someone.
Nah, they will just trade for Smyth when he retires.

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@reporterchris: For what it's worth, Bill Daly says any quotes from him refuting my story aren't legitimate.

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03-01-2013, 11:17 AM
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It sounds legit to me, not sure why he wouldn't have had to clear waivers if he did in fact play games after the start of the season.

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@TSNRyanRishaug: Canucks claimed sestito
That means we did not put a claim in?

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That means we did not put a claim in?
Correct

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It sounds legit to me, not sure why he wouldn't have had to clear waivers if he did in fact play games after the start of the season.
Why would he have to clear for CGY, but not the Avs is my question.

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Oh man, if that waiver thing is true, Sherman just saved Feaster his job. That's probably why nobody else bothered with an offer sheet.

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Why would he have to clear for CGY, but not the Avs is my question.
Wouldn't he still be Avs property?

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Why would he have to clear for CGY, but not the Avs is my question.
My guess is because he's property of the Avs and this was a move that changed his property just like signing a UFA.

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03-01-2013, 11:26 AM
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My guess is because he's property of the Avs and this was a move that changed his property just like signing a UFA.
I thought the whole reason for the clause was so teams wouldn't have their players playing in Europe and then bringing them in later in the year at a smaller cap hit?

Seems that something doesn't add up here.

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03-01-2013, 11:26 AM
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Why would he have to clear for CGY, but not the Avs is my question.
ROR would have been on the Av's reverse list, not the Flames.

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So hypothetically why doesn't a NHL team buy a KHL team. Spend to 3mil under the cap, let their RFA's play in Russia all year at say 10mil a year and then bring them into the NHL at 600k later in the year?

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So hypothetically why doesn't a NHL team buy a KHL team. Spend to 3mil under the cap, let their RFA's play in Russia all year at say 10mil a year and then bring them into the NHL at 600k later in the year?
Cause they may just need these said RFA's to make the playoffs in the first place. I dunno just a guess.

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Why would he have to clear for CGY, but not the Avs is my question.
From this article:

"Because O’Reilly spent the last three years in Colorado, he’s not viewed as a free agent who is joining a NHL team from Europe midway through the season. As a result, he does not need to clear waivers before suiting up for the Avs again.

The circumstances would have been much different if Calgary’s offer sheet was accepted.

That would have created a potentially disastrous situation where the Flames had to send two decent draft picks to Colorado before losing the rights to O’Reilly immediately afterwards. Hypothetically, it could even have been the Avalanche that ended up putting in a waiver claim on the player, assuming that they dropped back below Calgary in the standings by the time he hit the wire at the end of next week."

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03-01-2013, 11:34 AM
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Cause they may just need these said RFA's to make the playoffs in the first place. I dunno just a guess.
I don't know, I thought that was the explanation from day one as to why they had the waivers for guys that played in Europe. So that teams didn't circumvent the cap and load up late in the year. Yes it's far fetched, but would say Malkin playing in Russia every year to start the year be the difference in the Pens making the playoffs and not?

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So hypothetically why doesn't a NHL team buy a KHL team. Spend to 3mil under the cap, let their RFA's play in Russia all year at say 10mil a year and then bring them into the NHL at 600k later in the year?
Possible injuries and the BoG coming down on them like a ton of bricks would be my guess.

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03-01-2013, 11:37 AM
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From this article:

"Because O’Reilly spent the last three years in Colorado, he’s not viewed as a free agent who is joining a NHL team from Europe midway through the season. As a result, he does not need to clear waivers before suiting up for the Avs again.

The circumstances would have been much different if Calgary’s offer sheet was accepted.

That would have created a potentially disastrous situation where the Flames had to send two decent draft picks to Colorado before losing the rights to O’Reilly immediately afterwards. Hypothetically, it could even have been the Avalanche that ended up putting in a waiver claim on the player, assuming that they dropped back below Calgary in the standings by the time he hit the wire at the end of next week."
This article is being questioned though. The guys at pension plan puppets who generally are the go to waiver guys are the ones questioning it.

I'd also ask why did it take this long to come out? Why didn't one of the thousands of guru's out there figure this out last night?

I also thought the clause wasn't for free agents but players in general. I don't think Klefbom could've just got up and joined as whenever he wanted.

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03-01-2013, 11:43 AM
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This article is being questioned though. The guys at pension plan puppets who generally are the go to waiver guys are the ones questioning it.

I'd also ask why did it take this long to come out? Why didn't one of the thousands of guru's out there figure this out last night?

I also thought the clause wasn't for free agents but players in general. I don't think Klefbom could've just got up and joined as whenever he wanted.
I think it's murky because the new CBA hasn't been finalized yet.

Either way, I find this story brings a big smile to my face.

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I think it's murky because the new CBA hasn't been finalized yet.

Either way, I find this story brings a big smile to my face.
COL screwed up. If this was the case. You tank for a week you hope CBJ wins 2 games and WSH 1. You then reject, take the picks and take RoR off waivers.

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