That would be a huge + back to the Jets, IMO.
Trouba would be awesome, but Bogosian is already NHL proven and has decent potential.
Not sure what you mean by huge + back to the jets ? Do you mean the avs would have to add something to ROR to get both trouba and Burmi? I wouldn't mind adding anyone one of our prospects.
I know bogo is proven but this way we can get a 2c and a top pairing defenseman potentially.
Aaron Portzline @Aportzline
#CBJ have "kicked tires" on #Avs Ryan O'Reilly, as have many. Don't think #CBJ are a fit, though. Most think O'Reilly headed East if traded.
David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod
Teams like BUF & TOR are pushing hard for O'Reilly, but the price is high, as many have stated. Top-6 F, top prospect as part of package
Is David saying we would want a top 6 forward? I'd prefer a Top 4 d-man.
Maybe we will stack up our offense enough that we wont need defense.
Enstrom is one of those players that is far more valuable to us than anyone else. I don't think anyone on our team is "untouchable" for the right price, and Cheveldayoff has said as much. The problem with trading Enstrom is we're trading from a point of weakness, he's our only decent LHD. Hainsey and Stuart are both non-offensive (although Hainsey used to be, and is paid as such), and don't move the puck well. Also his chemistry with Byfuglien is unreal, they seem to have unspoken chemistry.
We're very stacked on the right side with Buff, Bogosian who are elite or near-elite, Postma and Redmond who are young but definitely NHL ready (Redmond played 20 minutes his first game without a fault) and Trouba up and coming.
What's wrong with a pint sized winger that can put up points with the best of them?
But that's not Ennis. He's not a PPG guy. Most likely he'll be a 60 point guy that will be one-dimensional.
I don't want to bash Ennis. I enjoy watching him. But trading O'Reilly for him is such a major downgrade in most areas that count that Avs management have to insane not to swallow their pride and overpay O'Reilly instead.
I'm an IceCaps season ticket holder so I've seen more than I'd like to of Postma. He's a turnover machine and for an offensive d-man is awful on the powerplay. Either hits shin pads, or puts off the glass after it almost hits a forward in the head.
Buffalo fan base would probably revolt if they traded Myers. Not to mention, until he starts showing he's worth a $5.5M cap hit I want nothing to do with him.
Also, Sabres lack top-end center depth, so if they're trading for O'Reilly it is safe to assume they wouldn't be including Hodgson in the deal.
The rumors of how many teams are interested is intriguing, and hopefully creates a bidding war, but until proven otherwise I am going to assume any return will be a disappointment as the Avalanche aren't dealing from a position of strength here. In which case I hope they decide to hold fast and wait for the deadline or the draft.
Adam has been a big disappointment since he's hot start 2 years ago. Armia IMO is wolski 2.0. Leaving sekera, who I would have but in addition to Ennis.
Figured that
Ennis + Sekera
for
RoR + would cost more than an O'Brien/O'Byrne/Zanon/Hunwick, and I'd hate to lose Hejda, Wilson, Barrie, or Elliott.
Trying to find the middle between my hopes for a return, and my fear of a return for ROR.
But that's not Ennis. He's not a PPG guy. Most likely he'll be a 60 point guy that will be one-dimensional.
I don't want to bash Ennis. I enjoy watching him. But trading O'Reilly for him is such a major downgrade in most areas that count that Avs management have to insane not to swallow their pride and overpay O'Reilly instead.
He's already a 60 point player and still very young. For the past half season he's been on pace for 70 Pts. The trade wouldn't be Ennis straight up for Ryan the sabres would have to add.
Not sure what you mean by huge + back to the jets ? Do you mean the avs would have to add something to ROR to get both trouba and Burmi? I wouldn't mind adding anyone one of our prospects.
I know bogo is proven but this way we can get a 2c and a top pairing defenseman potentially.
Yes we would have to add so something in there back. IMO I prefer Trouba+Little.
Sounds like Sherman is asking for a lot and I mean a lot. Sather is normally hot on any good player, but dropping out so quickly as the rumours say, that it will be an overpayment if ROR is indeed traded.
Something around Ennis + Sekera for ROR would be a real solid deal for the Avs. There are probably other trades that would have a higher ceiling, but this would be a pretty safe trade.
Well clearly it would be.
We would have to add something, the problem is though our prospect-pool for forwards is very dry except for bottom-6 + Sgarbossa.
As you also have an abundance of RHD offensive D-men I doubt any of our RHD offensive D-men are of any interest to you.
That would basically leave us with either a FW prospect, a roster D-man, a goalie prospect or picks going your way as the plus.
Of course we have our Kobasews and Palushaj's but they are a dime/12 players so they wouldn't be of much value unless you get injuries.
Watch him over the next few games. A lot of people think he might have a break out year.
I we trade Radar to teh Jets I want Burmi going back the other way and I'd give a huge NO to Little.
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Buffalo fan base would probably revolt if they traded Myers. Not to mention, until he starts showing he's worth a $5.5M cap hit I want nothing to do with him.
Also, Sabres lack top-end center depth, so if they're trading for O'Reilly it is safe to assume they wouldn't be including Hodgson in the deal.
The rumors of how many teams are interested is intriguing, and hopefully creates a bidding war, but until proven otherwise I am going to assume any return will be a disappointment as the Avalanche aren't dealing from a position of strength here. In which case I hope they decide to hold fast and wait for the deadline or the draft.
There's a lot of Sabres fans who had enough of Myers. As for Ennis, I don't want to see him in a trade involving Radar, we need to get bigger, not smaller. Foligno is the forward I would target on Buffalo.
Enstrom is one of those players that is far more valuable to us than anyone else. I don't think anyone on our team is "untouchable" for the right price, and Cheveldayoff has said as much. The problem with trading Enstrom is we're trading from a point of weakness, he's our only decent LHD. Hainsey and Stuart are both non-offensive (although Hainsey used to be, and is paid as such), and don't move the puck well. Also his chemistry with Byfuglien is unreal, they seem to have unspoken chemistry.
We're very stacked on the right side with Buff, Bogosian who are elite or near-elite, Postma and Redmond who are young but definitely NHL ready (Redmond played 20 minutes his first game without a fault) and Trouba up and coming.
Burmi + Trouba would definitely be overpayment.
How about Little + Trouba? I still think that it would be considered "overpayment" but maybe not as much as Burmi + Trouba.
What would the Jets be looking at as a potential addition to get that type of return?
Yes we would have to add so something in there back. IMO I prefer Trouba+Little.
Sounds like Sherman is asking for a lot and I mean a lot. Sather is normally hot on any good player, but dropping out so quickly as the rumours say, that it will be an overpayment if ROR is indeed traded.
I would easily do ROR +Siemens/Elliott/Barrie for Burmi and trouba. I wouldn't want it to be Barrie but I would do the trade.
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I we trade Radar to teh Jets I want Burmi going back the other way and I'd give a huge NO to Little.
There's a lot of Sabres fans who had enough of Myers. As for Ennis, I don't want to see him in a trade involving Radar, we need to get bigger, not smaller. Foligno is the forward I would target on Buffalo.
Nope, we need to get more skilled regardless of size. Of it comes down to Ennis or Foligno and Shermy pick Marcus I will blow a gasket.
I would easily do ROR +Siemens/Elliott/Barrie for Burmi and trouba. I wouldn't want it to be Barrie but I would do the trade.
Nope, we need to get more skilled regardless of size. Of it comes down to Ennis or Foligno and Shermy pick Marcus I will blow a gasket.
Ennis is a one-dimensional dangler, we don't need players of his ilk if we want to compete with the giants of the western conference like San Jose, LAK, Hawks etc.
The return from Buffalo I would like to get back in a deal involving Radar is Foligno + Grigersons or Grigorenko with additional pieces.
Ennis is a one-dimensional dangler, we don't need players of his ilk if we want to compete with the giants of the western conference like San Jose, LAK, Hawks etc.
The return from Buffalo I would like to get back in a deal involving Radar is Foligno + Grigersons or Grigorenko with additional pieces.
I hope Foligno isn't the main piece. He'll be a 3rd liner tops.
I'm scared of Girgersons since I think he was rushed too quickly and that may set back his development. He shouldn't have gone from the USHL straight to the AHL.
