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04-01-2013, 11:56 AM
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If they're asking for Couturier from Philly, we're talking about Granlund/Larsson/Zucker/Dumba/Coyle here for Clowe. My take would be that Clowe's not worth giving up any of those kids.

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04-01-2013, 11:57 AM
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Bouchard + 2nd for Clowe + 4th?

I'd be up for that.

Bouchard has to go. He's the only guy we can dump salary on, and he has been playing decently too to boot. Bouchard + Phillips + 3rd would be like the highest I'd go, IMO.

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04-01-2013, 11:58 AM
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Not sure how credible this is, but:

Clowe being dealt to the Flyers, sources say

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Well I think he'd be a better fit than Heatley or Bouchard in the top six, maybe Coyle as well. Clutter and Heatley really aren't working all that well together either. There's a lot of room for improvement in the top nine.

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04-01-2013, 11:59 AM
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I'd rather see Fletcher make a move for Jamie McBain....sounds like he is available. Besides, we need another Badger on this team.

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Maybe he's ambidextrous?
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If they're asking for Couturier from Philly, we're talking about Granlund/Larsson/Zucker/Dumba/Coyle here for Clowe. My take would be that Clowe's not worth giving up any of those kids.
They would have to add, something like Clowe + 1st or 2nd for Couturier. He's not worth anywhere near Couts alone.

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Clowe being dealt to the Flyers, sources say
Wouldn't break my heart.

But that trade doesn't make sense for Philly or Clowe. They trade a young skilled guy for a UFA 30-year-old middle-six winger? He goes to a team that's going to miss the playoffs?

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JAMIE MCBAIN IS AN EDINA NATIVE!!!! DO IT!!!

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04-01-2013, 12:02 PM
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I guess I wouldn't see the need to move more than a 2nd round pick for him given all the factors. He's not really needed, yes, he would help. But I don't think much at all. Then take into account I think it's pretty unwise to give away significant assets for a rental-type player in a short season. They'd be getting a vastly different number of games out of anyone in that scenario than they would in a typical year.

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04-01-2013, 12:06 PM
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I trust CF not to let the bidding war get away from him value-wise. If its too steep, just walk away. The only thing I can think of is that Clowe has a NTC, so he can guide the trade talks a la Iginla. Maybe he wants to come play for the MN Sharks in the playoffs?

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Not sure how credible this is, but:

Clowe being dealt to the Flyers, sources say
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Media reports have indicated the Montreal Canadiens, Vancouver Canucks, Boston Bruins and New York Rangers have expressed interest in Clowe, but sources say the Flyers have jumped in the mix and a deal sending the big winger to Philadelphia is all but done.
No mention of Minnesota? When all the TSN guys have mentioned us?

Not sure I can believe that source, to be honest.

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04-01-2013, 12:07 PM
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Yeah I don't see the Wild straight up adding Clowe unless they are going to turn around and deal Heater/Butch.

What do you think it would take to get McBain? Again, start with Bouchard and add a 3rd or 4th maybe?

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04-01-2013, 12:07 PM
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Well I think he'd be a better fit than Heatley or Bouchard in the top six, maybe Coyle as well. Clutter and Heatley really aren't working all that well together either. There's a lot of room for improvement in the top nine.
I think Clowe is a more valuable player to have than Bouchard, but dont think he would be a better fit for the 2nd line. That line is all about speed and Clowe doesnt have any.

Doesnt make sense to me to demote Coyle right now. That line has been one of the best lines in hockey for the past month, and I wouldnt change it unless I was 100% sure that Clowe would be a big upgrade.

Getting Clowe would be great for the right price, and would be even better if CF had somebody on the line willing to offer something for Healtey. Trading for and extending Clowe would have to signal the end of Heatley here.

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04-01-2013, 12:10 PM
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But really though, if we add Clowe at the expense of Bouchard, then dump Heatley in the off-season(in a trade or amnesty buyout, whichever), then sign Clowe to a 1-2 year "prove it" type contract, I think this trade could really be worth it.

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04-01-2013, 12:17 PM
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ugh... stay away from Clowe

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I'd be interested in McBain. I think Bouchard/Stoner/Scandella could be in play in such a trade. The Wild may not want another RD, though.

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Left field.

Parise - Koivu - Coyle
Zucker - Cullen - Setoguchi
Clowe - Brodziak - Clutterbuck
Rupp - Konopka - Mitchell

Top line cycles and holds the puck well.
Second line had tons of speed and skill.
Third line can bang and forecheck and put the puck in the net.
Fourth line can bang and forecheck.

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04-01-2013, 12:21 PM
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Left field.

Parise - Koivu - Coyle
Zucker - Cullen - Setoguchi
Clowe - Brodziak - Mitchell
Rupp - Konopka - Clutterbuck

Top line cycles and holds the puck well.
Second line had tons of speed and skill.
Third line can bang and forecheck and put the puck in the net.
Fourth line can bang and forecheck.
I like that, but with one modification...I'd swap out Clutterbuck and Mitchell. I think Mitchell can do everything Clutterbuck can do, PLUS he can bring a little more offense to the table.

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04-01-2013, 12:23 PM
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Left field.

Parise - Koivu - Coyle
Zucker - Cullen - Setoguchi
Clowe - Brodziak - Clutterbuck
Rupp - Konopka - Mitchell

Top line cycles and holds the puck well.
Second line had tons of speed and skill.
Third line can bang and forecheck and put the puck in the net.
Fourth line can bang and forecheck.

I dont see much of an upgrade over what the lineup is now. Would need answers to a few questions before knowing if I liked the idea.

1. Where did Heatley go? how does the rest of the team respond to it?
2. Where did Bouchard go?
3. What did the Wild pay for Clowe?

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04-01-2013, 12:24 PM
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I dont see much of an upgrade over what the lineup is now. Would need answers to a few questions before knowing if I liked the idea.

1. Where did Heatley go? how does the rest of the team respond to it?
2. Where did Bouchard go?
3. What did the Wild pay for Clowe?
My guess is those would be next year's line combos.

Heatley would be bought out.

Bouchard let go.

No idea of what it would take to get Clowe.

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04-01-2013, 12:29 PM
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Funny, I was just going to post this... He's a lefty.

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04-01-2013, 12:36 PM
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My guess is those would be next year's line combos.

Heatley would be bought out.

Bouchard let go.

No idea of what it would take to get Clowe.
Ok, so why mess with a good thing this year to try and slightly improve next years 3rd line? not to mention giving up assets for a guy that isnt even signed for next year yet.

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I dont see much of an upgrade over what the lineup is now. Would need answers to a few questions before knowing if I liked the idea.

1. Where did Heatley go? how does the rest of the team respond to it?
2. Where did Bouchard go?
3. What did the Wild pay for Clowe?
1. Don't care
2/3. Trade for Clowe

Like I said, left field.

And definitely not next year's lines...I'd hope we're still better than that.

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Why is everyone worried about giving up a ton. Iginla went for scraps and like Iginla Clowe has a NTC that would need to be waved giving him some power in the negotiations and seriously limiting SJ's options. I'd bet its Bouchard going that way and Clowe coming back with a midround pick. I would love this move if we could get it done. He would be a great winger for our club imo. Coyle, Brodin, Zucker, and Granlund are untouchable imo so if we had to throw in a prospect it would be someone much farther down the latter like Fontaine or Rau or something stupid. I mean Jarome Iginla went for 2 nobodys and a pick and Ryan clowe ain't even close to Iginla.


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04-01-2013, 12:48 PM
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No interest in Clowe whatsoever, unless maybe we get rid of Heatley for him and stick him on the 3rd line LW. Don't want him anywhere near the top 6.

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1. Don't care
2/3. Trade for Clowe

Like I said, left field.

And definitely not next year's lines...I'd hope we're still better than that.
I wouldnt be upset if the Wild traded Bouchard for Clowe, but what are your lines if the trade were to be made?

Like I said, I think Clowe would be an upgrade over Heatley, but you cant just snap your fingers and make Heatley disappear, not yet atleast.

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