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Ryan O'Reilly Headed to Offer Sheet or Trade? (Part 3)

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02-20-2013, 03:28 PM
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any reason Chicago isn't in on this? They are clearly a ROR type piece away from putting the team over the top.

McNeil/Denault + Terravanen/Saad
Reason their not in because those packages are awful in comparison to all the others around here.

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any reason Chicago isn't in on this? They are clearly a ROR type piece away from putting the team over the top.

McNeil/Denault + Terravanen/Saad
Uhh they havent lost a game in regulation...arent they WAY OVER the top


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02-20-2013, 03:38 PM
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any reason Chicago isn't in on this? They are clearly a ROR type piece away from putting the team over the top.

McNeil/Denault + Terravanen/Saad
Maybe they or either of them doesn't want to trade within conference? They might be in the same division after realignment, though that may not be likely.

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02-20-2013, 03:52 PM
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One this has always confused me about this ordeal. Was there not an arbitration hearing for this last summer?
No arbitration for a player coming off his ELC. Was the same thing with Subban/Benn.

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02-20-2013, 04:04 PM
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No arbitration for a player coming off his ELC. Was the same thing with Subban/Benn.
Maybe the two sides should agree to go to one. Maybe it's not binding, but why not try it out?

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02-20-2013, 04:05 PM
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Jaden Schwartz and Ian Cole for Ryan O' Reilly?
Not sure about the value as I don't really know too much about O' Reilly, but I don't think the blues would be interested, unless ROR was going to be paid around the 3.5 for 2 years that he's already turning down from the AVs. The blues have done a really good job at signing their players to fair deals and bridge contracts and have Petro, Berglund, and Stewart to sign this offseason.

Giving a higher dollar contract to ROR based on projection might screw up the signing of our future RFA's, much like AVs fans are worried about. Backes got 4.5 mil when he was closer to being a UFA and had multiple 30 goal seasons under his belt. I just don't see the blues in on the talks if you take into account what it will take to sign him.

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02-20-2013, 05:21 PM
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He's 22 and he's not a prolific offensive player. If he was, there would be more justification for some of these offers. Im not saying he wont be.

The other two guys you mentioned were primed for UFA. The CBA is the CBA and unless youre a Steven Stamkos, that's going to somewhat control your dollar value until you're of UFA age.
It's funny how people focus on everything currently, like his recent birthday (22) and not taking into account he was a 50 point player despite having Winnik on his one wing and a rookie winger who took a few months to get up to speed before dominating...all as a 20 year old who turned 21 just two months prior to the season being over. Can you imagine him with two scoring wingers who are fully adjusted to the game? Not to mention his two way play adds extra value. Throwing him into a group of "hey he's a 50 point guy at 22 so what?!?" Just doesn't tell the correct story.

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02-20-2013, 05:34 PM
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Kyle Okposo and Andrew McDonald for Ryan O' Reilly and Ryan O' Byrne?

or

Jaden Schwartz and Ian Cole for Ryan O' Reilly?

or

Ryan O' Reilly and something for Michael Del Zotto and JT Miller?
Not crazy about the 1st one but I admittedly don't know a whole lot about McDonald. The next 2 are pretty good and ones I'd consider for sure.

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Rangers get Gonchar from Ottawa for a 2nd

then move

DZ, Boyle, 3rd
for
O'Reiley, Barrie

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02-20-2013, 08:37 PM
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Rangers get Gonchar from Ottawa for a 2nd

then move

DZ, Boyle, 3rd
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O'Reiley, Barrie
MDZ+Boyle is (sorry, but) a terrible package. Especially when we have to throw in Barrie, who is playing fantastic.

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02-20-2013, 08:51 PM
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any reason Chicago isn't in on this? They are clearly a ROR type piece away from putting the team over the top.

McNeil/Denault + Terravanen/Saad
I proposed Leddy + Stalberg + Frolik a couple of pages back. Would love RoR on the Hawks. Not at 5 million per but perhaps 3.5-4.

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02-20-2013, 08:53 PM
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After reading his Dad's tweets and blog. I am very confident he will not sign with Ottawa.

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02-20-2013, 09:08 PM
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After reading his Dad's tweets and blog. I am very confident he will not sign with Ottawa.
why, because his Dad mentioned Ottawa's goaltender?

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02-20-2013, 09:15 PM
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why, because his Dad mentioned Ottawa's goaltender?
Read his blog or tweets then look into how Melnyk made his money

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Read his blog or tweets then look into how Melnyk made his money
you're kidding, right?

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02-20-2013, 09:29 PM
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you're kidding, right?
Not at all.

His father is very passionate about his feelings towards pharmaceuticals and Melnyk owned a very large one. I am opposed to guns and I would not want my son playing for an owner that was on the chair of the NRA.

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02-20-2013, 09:32 PM
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Rangers get Gonchar from Ottawa for a 2nd

then move

DZ, Boyle, 3rd
for
O'Reiley, Barrie
As far as Im concerned Barrie is a non starter at this point, and that package wouldn't get you ROR I don't believe. No interest in Boyle from the Avs.

MDZ + Miller/Kreider

for

ROR + Obrien + 2nd or ROR + Elliott

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MDZ+Boyle is (sorry, but) a terrible package. Especially when we have to throw in Barrie, who is playing fantastic.
I understand why you'd not want to throw in Barrie and I still haven't gotten an answer on the Rangers board why a team needing D-men will trade a promising young D-man to us. That said, Boyle is no great shakes, but calling a 41 point +20 D-man who is 22 is unfair.

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As far as Im concerned Barrie is a non starter at this point, and that package wouldn't get you ROR I don't believe. No interest in Boyle from the Avs.

MDZ + Miller/Kreider

for

ROR + Obrien + 2nd or ROR + Elliott
No interest in O'Brien. I don't want to move Miller or Kreider BUT I'm interested to know more about Elliott. Since I'm not actually center, you can tell me if he's any good or not.

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ROR

Ridiculous Over Rated.

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His father is very passionate about his feelings towards pharmaceuticals and Melnyk owned a very large one. I am opposed to guns and I would not want my son playing for an owner that was on the chair of the NRA.
Agree with you, Sens will not trade for a player that is a mere puppet of his father. Of course if he is his own man, able to make his own decisions, then Murray would love his character and skills.

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ROR

Ridiculous Over Rated.
What does this bring to the table?

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02-20-2013, 11:25 PM
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What does this bring to the table?
given it is missing the "ly", less than nothing

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Not at all.

His father is very passionate about his feelings towards pharmaceuticals and Melnyk owned a very large one. I am opposed to guns and I would not want my son playing for an owner that was on the chair of the NRA.
Would you not want your son to win a Nobel Prize? Or is it OK because Nobel only invented dynamite?

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what does this bring to the table?
jmo.

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