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02-26-2013, 01:43 PM
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Volchenkov would be a great fit on the Rangers, honestly. But that won't happen.
I also said this maybe a week ago.

To the disappointment of many, I doubt he is traded or bought-out. He has not been as bad as people say but he's also not been playing the game we all want him to. I'm positive the organization has tried to turn him into something he is not. He was never a stalwart defensive defenseman. He's a big hitter, shot-blocking penalty killer. I think Lou rides out his contract unless a team wants him in a trade.

Tallinder would most likely be the one to move. Less money and only one more year. I see a team taking him.

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Get Weiss here, make a good playoff run, then re-sign him to a long deal.

We'd then be in better shape than if Zach had re-signed here.

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http://www.thefourthperiod.com/trade.../notrades.html

numerous examples

there are limited versions of both NTCs and NMCs
I stand corrected, my previous post is worthless obviously. Thanks for the enlightenment.

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02-26-2013, 01:48 PM
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I'm also on board for Weiss. We could certainly using a scoring threat who can center Kovalcuk.

So far I'm very disappointed with Zajac and Henrique's seasons.

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I stand corrected, my previous post is worthless obviously. Thanks for the enlightenment.
Um you're welcome?



NSIS - just pointing out details before debates spin out for no reason. NTCs and NMCs are almost as confusing as the waiver and recall issues for varying classes of players.

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I'm also on board for Weiss. We could certainly using a scoring threat who can center Kovalcuk.

So far I'm very disappointed with Zajac and Henrique's seasons.
I am confident that Zajac and Henrique will bounce back, but I would want Weiss not only for this season but for the long haul.

Henrique can move to wing if need be too.

He would fit in great here and be a good Devils player, and wear #9.

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NSIS - just pointing out details before debates spin out for no reason. NTCs and NMCs are almost as confusing as the waiver and recall issues for varying classes of players.
Never a bad time for a little NTC/NMC lesson. Especially if we're going to grind our fingers down hoping to stumble upon a trade that works/happens/thrills us all.

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I was under the impression that a NMC is just a NTC + waivers and stuff like that.

Each one can have limitations, but a NMC is more powerful than a NTC in a vacuum

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NJ receives: -Weiss

Florida receives: -Urbom/Prospect
- Tedenby/Josefson
- 3rd (2014)


NJ receives: -Gagne

LA receives: -Volchenkov
- 4th (if necessary)


Gagne - Zajac - Kovalchuk (1st line potential)
Elias - Weiss - Clarkson (2nd line potential)
Zubrus - Henrique - Poni (2nd line potential)
Carter - Gionta - Bernier (3rd line potential)

Replace Carter/Zubrus (depending on injury)
Not to mention still having Butler, Matteau, etc.

I personally love that lineup. Thoughts on these deals? Realistic? Overvalue? Undervalue?


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NJ receives: -Weiss

Florida receives: -Urbom/Prospect
- Tedenby/Josefson
- 3rd (2014)


NJ receives: -Gagne

LA receives: -Volchenkov
- 4th (if necessary)


Gagne - Zajac - Kovalchuk (1st line potential)
Elias - Weiss - Clarkson (2nd line potential)
Zubrus - Henrique - Poni (2nd line potential)
Carter - Gionta - Bernier (3rd line potential)

Replace Carter/Zubrus (depending on injury)
Not to mention still having Butler, Matteau, etc.

I personally love that lineup. Thoughts on these deals? Realistic? Overvalue? Undervalue?
I don't think Gagne can play first line minutes and I don't think the Kings would want Volch.

If Lou can swing both deals we should personally build him a statue.

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NJ receives: -Weiss

Florida receives: -Urbom/Prospect
- Tedenby/Josefson
- 3rd (2014)


NJ receives: -Gagne

LA receives: -Volchenkov
- 4th (if necessary)
It's one or the other. No way Lou swings a deal for both Weiss and Gagne in the same season. Even with out plethora of defenseman prospects, I'd still be a little wary about giving up Urbom - he has a lot of talent. With that being said, I guess you have to give to get .

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Do not want Gagne

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I don't think Gagne can play first line minutes and I don't think the Kings would want Volch.

If Lou can swing both deals we should personally build him a statue.
I agree on the Gagne comment, but according to many LA fans, LA is looking for a big d-man who can hit and play PK. (Volch)

And both trades going down is a bit out there, but it would be ideal for our needs I feel.

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NJ receives: -Weiss

Florida receives: -Urbom/Prospect
- Tedenby/Josefson
- 3rd (2014)


NJ receives: -Gagne

LA receives: -Volchenkov
- 4th (if necessary)
I don't want Gagne, personally. I also think we're overpaying for Weiss. I don't think he'd cost that much.

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I don't want Gagne, personally. I also think we're overpaying for Weiss. I don't think he'd cost that much.
Overpaying for Weiss? Possibly, what would be better to give? Urbom or a higher prospect would have to go, and most likely a pick as well. (2014)

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02-26-2013, 03:00 PM
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It all depends on the market for Weiss. Some team is going to end up overpaying for him; I hope it's won't be us.

Also, we all have to stay calm. We're near the top of the conference and our top 2 centers aren't even scoring yet. Once they get hot - Oh boy - this team can be scary.

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Overpaying for Weiss? Possibly, what would be better to give? Urbom or a higher prospect would have to go, and most likely a pick as well. (2014)
Florida knows Weiss will walk in July, I think your offer is fair and reasonable, espcially if Florida is pretty much out of it by the deadline.

But other teams will be bidding for him and therefore raise the bar.

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ive always liked gagne, and hes always been hell against us. but hes just not the same anymore and i really want no part of him. hes just gonna get injured and well be right back where we started....with an open spot looking for offense. its too bad too because if he was 100, heck evn 85% healthy on a consistent basis, then hell yeah i want him here.

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weiss, also at this point with the deebo connection and style he plays...plus the number hed be inheriting, is the best option. butler sucks and should either be in the minors or elsewhere. maybe hell like florida along with tallinder. because thats all id offer for a pending ufa thats in chateau bowwow.

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It all depends on the market for Weiss. Some team is going to overpay for him; I hope it's not us.

Also, we all have to stay calm. We're near the top of the conference and our top 2 centers aren't even scoring yet. Once they get hot - Oh boy - this team can be scary.
That is a half glass full viewpoint.
We are also not far from sinking to 9th place and I think it's obvious that if Lou does not acquire a top-6 forward we're not going far this spring.

I also think our D needs an upgrade, but more subtle, a crafty vet with decent wheels.

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I would only be willing to give up Josefson/Tedenby and a draft pick for Weiss. I really like Urbom and would hate to see him go.

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I would only be willing to give up Josefson/Tedenby and a draft pick for Weiss. I really like Urbom and would hate to see him go.
With the competition for Weiss, I don't see that being enough. I think Urbom would have to be included, and that's not even overpayment quite yet. If others are to overpay for him, I wonder how far Lou would go...

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id rather not get rid of yayo at all. hes still a great prospect and shouldnt go. especially for a pending ufa.

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Via Flyers twitter: TRADE ALERT! GAGNE'S BACK! #Flyers announced that they have acquired Simon Gagne from LA in a trade. DETAILS HERE http://*******/9UNv1R

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