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02-17-2013, 02:40 PM
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Mtl-Chi

To Chi: L.Eller, 2013 Cgy 2nd round pick, 2013 Nsh 2nd round pick

To Mtl: M. Kruger, T.Teravainen

Why?

Chi gets a potential #2C that they can put between Kane and Sharp while putting back Bolland as a shutdown center where he will continue to be useful, especially in the playoffs. The second round picks become ammunition for rental at the trade deadline.

For Mtl, Kruger replace Eller as a 4th line center who is the first replacement for injuries, smally affecting the overall team and there performances. Mtl continue their rebuild by adding a tremendous prospect that our head scout was considering top 10 worthy in 2012.

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02-17-2013, 02:45 PM
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No thanks

Kruger is playing great and is our best PK forward and TT is good prospect to have going forward

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02-17-2013, 02:46 PM
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Kruger is playing great and is our best PK forward and TT is good prospect to have going forward
And your point is?

Lars is playing great too and those two seconds don't come cheap in this draft.

Just saying, you can make a way better argument than that.

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02-17-2013, 02:49 PM
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I'd do it i doubt the hawks would.

I would still do it if Danault was in place of Teravainen.

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02-17-2013, 02:58 PM
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And your point is?

Lars is playing great too and those two seconds don't come cheap in this draft.

Just saying, you can make a way better argument than that.
Kruger can do many of the things Eller does

TT > the picks

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02-17-2013, 03:16 PM
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How bout Eller, Leblanc and Archambault for Kruger and T.T.?

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Kruger is not available

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02-17-2013, 04:42 PM
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I wouldn't do this for TT alone tbh. No need for those 2nd rounders. We need quality prospects, have quantity. TT is quality.

Eller wouldn't be an upgrade over Krüger


easy to say no

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02-17-2013, 04:49 PM
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I know Timmons was high on Teravainen before the draft but I don't think a 5'11 165lb center should be that kind of prospect we are targeting. With all our top wing prospects (Gallagher, Colberg, Kristo) all being smaller guys we should be looking for a bigger wing prospect instead of another smaller center.

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02-17-2013, 04:51 PM
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I wouldn't do this for TT alone tbh. No need for those 2nd rounders. We need quality prospects, have quantity. TT is quality.

Eller wouldn't be an upgrade over Krüger



easy to say no
How exactly did you come to this conclusion? Just never watching Eller play?

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02-17-2013, 04:56 PM
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lol @ Eller not being an updrage over Kruger. Come on.

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02-17-2013, 05:13 PM
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lol @ Eller not being an updrage over Kruger. Come on.
Lars Eller is older and not as good. Pretty simple.

Kruger's outscoring him playing on Chicago's 4th line, with no PP time, and playing with Frolik and Bollig/Mayers. Not to mention, Kruger's arguabley Chicago's best PKer.

Come on.

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02-17-2013, 05:19 PM
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Would rather hold on to Kruger, he's improved tremendously this year playing a role he's suited for.

Eller's a good player, but on top of Kruger there's not a chance I'd want to give up Teravainen for him. Hawks need a #2C, but Eller isn't that guy. Plus it's pretty significant overpayment anyway.

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02-17-2013, 05:34 PM
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Lars Eller is older and not as good. Pretty simple.

Kruger's outscoring him playing on Chicago's 4th line, with no PP time, and playing with Frolik and Bollig/Mayers. Not to mention, Kruger's arguabley Chicago's best PKer.

Come on.
Kruger is only 1 year younger.

And Eller plays on Montreal 4th line, with no PP time unless injuries, and playing with Moen and Armstrong. Not to mention, Eller is a good PKer.

Come on.

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I know Timmons was high on Teravainen before the draft but I don't think a 5'11 165lb center should be that kind of prospect we are targeting. With all our top wing prospects (Gallagher, Colberg, Kristo) all being smaller guys we should be looking for a bigger wing prospect instead of another smaller center.
Pretty sure TT will be a winger in the NHL. He's playing LW in SM-LIIGA.

I like Eller's potential but Kruger is much improved this season. I wouldn't trade Kruger straight up for Eller and I wouldn't trade TT for draft picks unless the pick was a high 1st rounder.

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02-17-2013, 05:41 PM
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Kruger is only 1 year younger.

And Eller plays on Montreal 4th line, with no PP time unless injuries, and playing with Moen and Armstrong. Not to mention, Eller is a good PKer.

Come on.
OK - they sound pretty similar - so why do it from either side?

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02-17-2013, 05:50 PM
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OK - they sound pretty similar - so why do it from either side?
Simple answer, we don't

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02-17-2013, 06:02 PM
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Kruger is only 1 year younger.

And Eller plays on Montreal 4th line, with no PP time unless injuries, and playing with Moen and Armstrong. Not to mention, Eller is a good PKer.

Come on.
Still younger. He had a better rookie seaon than Eller and has been better than Eller this year.

I'm not even going to get into Teravainen seemingly being a throw-in in this deal. That's a joke.

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Lars Eller - GP 14, G 1, Pts 5; TOI/G 13:20, SHTOI 1:51, PPTOI 0:54, EVTOI 10:34

Marcus Kruger - GP 15, G 3, Pts 6; TOI/G 12:43, SHTOI 2:48, PPTOI 0:17, EVTOI 9:38

So, Kruger plays less, has scored more, contributes more to a PK, on a team that takes far fewer penalties than Montreal (61 minors vs 80) and is one of the best in the league. I'm not really familiar with Corsi and advanced stas, but I'd assume they'd favour Kruger too.

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02-17-2013, 06:20 PM
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Don't see why either team needs to make the trade.

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02-17-2013, 06:24 PM
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Kruger is beginning to come into his own. He's an intelligent player with tons of upside and TT has way too much potential to let go this early in his development. He'll probably mature into his 5.11 frame with around
185 lbs. And man does this kid have vision.
So thanks .... but no.

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02-17-2013, 06:32 PM
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I don't see why Chicago does this. Eller doesn't seem like an answer to 2C, and I doubt the Hawks consider moving any members of a bottom 6 that is playing so well.

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02-17-2013, 06:32 PM
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Eller, Desharnais or Pleks will get traded only once MB has fully evaluated his team. On top, we are starting to get hit with injuries. Athough TT was one of his favorites at the draft, I don't think that he would fit our needs given his size. MB did not have any idea at that point of what Brendan Gallagher was capable of.

I do believe though that a trade with Chicago is very plausible given the MB-Hawks relationship and knowledge of the players, and also Gauthier's knowledge of he Habs' players. The player the Hawks need at this stage is more Pleks, but I think that a trade involving him would be complex and difficult to wrap up.

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Definite no from the Hawks. Thanks.

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