Absolutely love the guy. Anybody see the interview when (I think it was Mendes) asked him what he felt about getting the A? I don't think I've seen a prouder athlete in my life. He was just so thrilled and honoured.
I still think it was a fair (and good) trade for both teams. I think Foligno is a step above "dime a dozen" player. I think Methot is about the same step above replacement level D (i.e. dime a dozen). But considering both team's needs, I think this was a good trade for each side.
I definitely am a Methot-for-Foligno trade skeptic turned believer, although I was really hoping it would turn out this way. I was really rooting for the guy to be as fun to watch on the ice as we is to follow on his twitter feed.
He looks good with the 'A'. absolutely a ton of fun to watch an Ottawa boy sport it and play his role well.
Most impressive thing: The guy actually has some poise, and can skate it out too. He doesn't have to use the glass as a way to get the puck out. I'm very, very impressed with him. Excellent trade by Murray.
Methot isn't that good, he is a solid mid pairing guy. Arguably solid enough to anchor a mid pairing or shutdown pairing.
Thing is, he doesn't use alot of offensive instincts he likely has. That restricts his abilities somewhat.
Columbus had too many d-men and not enough forwards, they got a 47 point forward for a stay at home guy, they aren't complaining.
Not really, they got a guy on pace for 10g-20a-30pts. Probably lower than what could be expected, but anyone expecting another 47 ots season out of him were bound to be disappointed. What they got was a good grinding soldier. I don't imagine their complaining about that, as you said, there was little room for Methot.
I predict Gryba (being a right hand shot) will be playing with Cowen which has the potential to be a LETHAL shut down pairing.
That makes sense. Whoever plays with EK will log the most minutes so the question will become do you give those (at least initially) to Cowen (coming back from serious injury) or Methot. Cowen also wants to develop his offensive side and being paired with EK could make him hold back. Playing with Gryba might mean he can take more offensive risks. 2 hitters would be a tough pair to play against.
In any case for next season the potential top 6 of EK, Methot, Gryba, Cowen, Weir and Phillips gives Stache many options in his regular pairings, on the PK and pp. Having said that Bryan Murray will probably change that up by finding an experienced D to push one of the rookies to a backup role.
Methot was an amazing trade. Just amazing. Maybe our pro scouting is getting better? Turris and Methot were great adds.
Or maybe our pro scouting just appears better because our GM has coveted assets to make deals with. Columbus has Dmen moving in, so Methot was expendable. We have forwards coming in, so Foligno was expendable.
You know, we used to make deals relying on Chris Campoli's and 2nd round picks to get us returns that make the team better. But that's because the farm was bare of any talent not too long ago.
How did we get Turris? Probably amazing pro scouting, I mean, we had to be the only team that knew Turris was good. Reality? We had David Rundblad to attach to a 2nd rounder. That's how we got Turris. Because we turned 17th overall into a highly coveted talent that gained a ton of hype in Sweden.
We are a pretty rich team now in young assets, this is currency in the NHL. We have the ability to make good deals now, and we don't have to just rely on fleecing teams to get better. We can mix and match and build a roster now because we have things other teams want and we draft and develop among the best in the league...so the teams that don't are forced to overpay. Just like we used to.
The Foligno for Methot trade was a pretty lateral deal. Methot wasn't needed in Columbus as much as we needed him, and vice versa for Foligno. I thought we got the better player on the day the deal was made...but it's probably not all that significant.
very solid top-4 defenceman >>> solid top 9 forward
foligno ideally is a third line energy/grinding player who can chip in some offence on a third line of a very good team. if you have to play him higher, you aren't a good team.
methot has shown every indication this year that he is a very solid top-4 defenceman who can defend, be physical, play on the PK, and move the puck safely and consistently out of our zone. that is a much, much more valuable commodity. much more.
I'd actually want to see Murray go after a legit top 3 defender to solidify our defense for years to come.
Me too, but I actually wouldn't mind a stop gap until Ceci is ready. I would love to acquire Mark Streit as a UFA (assuming he makes it to free agency) or trade for Dan Boyle (depending on what we would have to give up). They are a bit older (mid thirties), but would definitely be an upgrade on Gonchar. I think we need a bit more offense from the blueline. Karlsson is awesome of course, but after him who is the next best offensive defenceman? I guess Gonchar, but I would be shocked if he is back next year. Methot, Cowen and Phillips are good stay at home guys, but won't provide much offense. To me, the ideal situation is to bring in an offensive top 4 d-man to play with Cowen next year.