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Best Trade In Team History: Colorado (including Quebec)

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Dale Hunter, Clint Malarchuk for Gaetan Duchesne, Alan Haworth, 1st (Joe Sakic) (1988) 7 4.05%
Eric Lindros for Peter Forsberg, Steve Duchesne, other players, picks, $15 million (1992) 90 52.02%
11th round pick for Stephane Yelle (1994) 2 1.16%
Wendel Clark for Claude Lemieux (1995) 0 0%
Andrei Kovalenko, Martin Rucinsky, Jocelyn Thibault for Patrick Roy, Mike Keane (1995) 71 41.04%
Wade Belak, Rene Corbet, picks for Theo Fleury, Chris Dingman (1999) 0 0%
Martin Grenier, Sami Pahlsson, Brian Rolston, pick for Ray Bourque, Dave Andreychuk (2000) 1 0.58%
Adam Deadmarsh, Aaron Miller, picks for Rob Blake, Steven Reinprecht (2001) 0 0%
Kyle Quincey for Steve Downie (2012) 2 1.16%
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02-20-2013, 05:26 PM
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Best Trade In Team History: Colorado (including Quebec)

Anaheim: Chad Kilger, Oleg Tverdovsky, picks for Teemu Selanne, Marc Chouinard, picks (1996)
Boston: Barry Pederson for Cam Neely, 1987 1st round pick (Glen Wesley) (1986)
Buffalo: Stephane Beauregard, pick (Eric Daze) for Dominik Hasek (1992)
Calgary: 2nd round pick for Miikka Kiprusoff (2003)
Carolina: Keith Primeau, pick for Rod Brind'Amour, Jean-Marc Pelletier, pick (2000)
Chicago: Hank Bassen, Forbes Kennedy, Bill Preston, Johnny Wilson for Glenn Hall, Ted Lindsay (1957)

This next one is... interesting. A few major ones, including one that I didn't know was the result of a trade. Pretty sure I already know what's going to win.

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02-20-2013, 05:30 PM
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The Eric Lindros trade set up the trade for Roy so it has to be the Lindros trade.

However acquiring Roy was easily the piece that put them over the top.

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Roy trade for me.

Lindros/Forsberg is an even swap for the most part, even though it set them up.

Roy trade was lopsided AND he's arguably the best player they had.

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02-20-2013, 05:48 PM
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The Roy trade.

Roy was the missing piece for that team. They had the offense, and defense, but were missing the goaltending. Acquiring Roy gave them the needed piece to win multiple Cups.

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I'd say easily the Roy trade.

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If the Cam Neely trade won, based on the fact of the trade that "gives", then it should be the Forsberg/Lindros trade.

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02-20-2013, 06:41 PM
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If the Cam Neely trade won, based on the fact of the trade that "gives", then it should be the Forsberg/Lindros trade.
It won based on people being stupid. The Esposito trade eventually "gave" more than the Neely trade... fact is, people who don't know history think Milan Lucic and Sergei Samsonov are better pieces than Jean Ratelle and Brad Park.

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02-20-2013, 06:57 PM
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Landing Roy made them cup champs in my mind. (Nordique fan)

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I see i'm in the minority but i'd go with the Sakic trade

he was the soul of that team

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It won based on people being stupid. The Esposito trade eventually "gave" more than the Neely trade... fact is, people who don't know history think Milan Lucic and Sergei Samsonov are better pieces than Jean Ratelle and Brad Park.
I feel ya. I was shocked that Neely won that....they didn't even with a cup with Neely!

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Just because of all of the trades and moves that trace back to it this has to be the Lindros trade, although the Roy trade is my favorite as he was always my favorite Av and the reason I became a fan of this team.

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Lindros, we won two cups thanks to Foppa and all the depth that trade created for us. Sakic a close second, but it was a less impressive trade, who knows if they'd have taken him or not without doing that trade.

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Easily the Roy trade. That man was a living and breathing Stanley Cup guarantee on the ice. Will never forget the day he went to Colorado. Finally went to a team that had his back.

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As much as I think Roy was more important for the team than Forsberg, there are people on the Avs right now who are descendants of the Lindros trade. It's not a question.

(Also, there are some trades missing from the poll, for the sake of being concise. Winnik and Galiardi for McGinn, Connolly and Sgarbossa is a good one, so is Leopold for Nycholat, Wilson and a pick (S. Elliott). I daresay there are others. Ed 2: There are, for the Avs at least, here: http://www.avalanchedb.com/business/...ions/trade.php)

Ed - Ok now I've voted. This is a lot closer than it should be. It's the Lindros trade. See: http://www.avalanchedb.com/archives/lindrostree.php

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I'm going to go with the Lindros trade. They turned a player that didn't want to play for them and would have continued to sit out indefinitely for Peter FN Forsberg+. I get that Lindros was considered a generational talent and not just some potential star player, but either way they got a great return for an asset that wanted nothing to do with them.

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I'm a little surprised to not see more love for the deal that got them the Sakic draft pick. The trade wasn't as sensational, but Sakic was pretty easily the most important player in the franchise's history.

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I'm going to go with the Lindros trade. They turned a player that didn't want to play for them and would have continued to sit out indefinitely for Peter FN Forsberg+. I get that Lindros was considered a generational talent and not just some potential star player, but either way they got a great return for an asset that wanted nothing to do with them.
Yeah, peak for peak/prime for prime Lindros and Forsberg are pretty similar, Lindros probably more dominant in the regular season and Forsberg in the postseason.

But then Lindros was no longer a superstar after the turn of the millennium due to injuries while Forsberg still churned out multiple solid post-season performances and a hart/art ross regular season before himself succumbing to the effect injuries.

Plus all those extra parts they got besides Forsberg made it a very favorable trade for Quebec.

Basically, from 93-99 it looked like a fairly even trade, maybe leaning slightly Colorado. Lindros was a bigger star than Forsberg at the time, and he was extremely dominant don't let anybody convince you otherwise. But then after 2000 Forsberg makes his case for why he is better than Lindros, and the other parts from the trade keep on giving:

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Lindros went to Philadelphia for:

Forsberg
Duschesne
Huffman
Ricci
Hextall
1st Round Pick 1993 (Jocelyn Thibault)
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Future Considerations (Chris Simon)
1st Round Pick 1994 (See Butcher trade)

Duschesne was involved in a trade with St. Louis for Butcher, Sutter, Bassen
Butcher and the 1994 1st Round Pick went with Sundin to Toronto for Clark, Lefebvre, Wilson and Toronto's 1994 1st Round Draft Pick (Kealty)
Clark was later traded to the Islanders for Claude Lemieux
Lemieux was traded to New Jersey with picks for Rolston and New Jersey's 1st Round Draft Pick (later traded to Boston)
Rolston and New Jersey's 1st Round Draft Pick went to Boston for Bourque and Andreychuk
Wilson eventually flipped to Boston for Boston's 1st (Robyn Regher)
Regher was involved in a trade with Calgary for Fleury and Dingman
Dingman was traded to Carolina for a 5th Round Pick that eventually became Viitanen

Ricci was traded to San Jose in a deal that returned Donovan and Tanguay
Donovan was traded to Atlanta for Tabaracci
Tanguay was traded to Calgary for Leopold and two picks that would become Burki and Cann
Leopold was traded back to Calgary for Wilson, Nycholat, and a pick that would be used to select Elliot.

Hextall was traded to the Island for Fitzpatrick and the Islanders 1st Round Draft Pick (Deadmarsh)
Deadmarsh was sent to LA for Blake and Reinprecht
Reinprecht was traded to Buffalo for Ballard
Ballard went to Phoenix in a large deal that returned Vaananen, Gratton, a 2nd Round Pick (Stastny)

Thibault was traded to Montreal in the deal that brought back Roy and Keane

Simon was traded to Washington for Jones and Washington's 1st (Parker) and 4th (traded back to Washington)
Jones was traded to Philly for Podein
Podein was traded to St. Louis for Keane
Parker was traded to San Jose for a 5th round draft pick (Richardson)

TL;DR
Ryan Wilson and Paul Stastny are the players currently on the Avalanche who can be traced back to the Lindros deal.

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02-21-2013, 03:13 AM
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Picked the Roy trade. The Lindros trade was basically luck - he didn't want to play in Quebec and other teams threw the kitchen sink at them to get him.

The Roy trade was pure brilliance though

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I disagree.

The Roy trade was because Patrick wanted out of Montreal. There's no way he's traded if he doesn't ask to be.

Meanwhile, the Forsberg trade would've been even if it were just Lindros for Forsberg, forget about all the other players included.

Not to mention, the main piece going to Montreal in the Roy trade was the highly touted Jocelyn Thibault, who was acquired in the Lindros trade.

The Roy trade doesn't even happen without the Lindros trade.

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The Lindros trade, gotta go with it.

Barely beating the Quincey trade.

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The St Patrick trade and the crap they gave us in return for him. At least the Flyers did get Lindros and played like a dominant player fro years before his injury problems began.

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The Roy trade.

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Seeing Quincey play for the Red Wings does just warm my heart.

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Roy trade for me.

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quincey, lol

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