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03-17-2012, 05:43 PM
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What are your expecations of Johan Larsson?

I like many have not seen much of this player, except for a few clips.

He puts up very respectable numbers, and is said to be a leader. Is he a player we should be very excited for as a top 6 guy....or is he more of a grit/energy 3rd line type player, who has good leadership.

Are you guys excited for him. He seems to get less talk than some of our other spects (coyle, granlund, phillips, brodin) etc...

What ya'll think?

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03-17-2012, 05:59 PM
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I like many have not seen much of this player, except for a few clips.

He puts up very respectable numbers, and is said to be a leader. Is he a player we should be very excited for as a top 6 guy....or is he more of a grit/energy 3rd line type player, who has good leadership.

Are you guys excited for him. He seems to get less talk than some of our other spects (coyle, granlund, phillips, brodin) etc...

What ya'll think?
I'm seeing him as maybe young Tuomo Ruutu. He's got good stickhandling, he hustles, brings grit and leadership but he's got skills to back it up, too. Very clutch guy. Good speed and stride but needs to work on his skating a little as well as his shot. Upside? Two-way top six winger, he is the kind of guy who goes to the corners and does the dirty work to make room for your playmakers and snipers. Very valuable guy to have around, not flashy, will not have magical 80-point seasons but you'll notice when he's not around.

Very much like Zucker, actually. I have high hopes for this kid.

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03-17-2012, 06:03 PM
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Please be like Loui Eriksson, please be like a Loui Eriksson...

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Please be like Loui Eriksson, please be like a Loui Eriksson...
Won't be. Totally different type of player. See my post above.

Erik Haula, on the other hand...

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03-17-2012, 06:09 PM
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Loui isn't known for his two-way play and leadership, quickness, being clutch but not that flashy? Allright

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Loui isn't known for his two-way play and leadership, quickness, being clutch but not that flashy? Allright
For some reason, I mistook Karlsson and Eriksson, and I thought "why would you compare an offensive D to a defensive F?"


My bad, sorry. Still, I don't think he will score as much as Loui, sadly.

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Ha, no problem.

Realist in me thinks he'll be a 0.5 PPG player in the league, anything over that would be a pleasant surprise. Perhaps even be the captain after Koivu.

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03-17-2012, 06:29 PM
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He could be a dominate #3 center behind Koivu and Granlund/Coyle.

Put him with Zucker and Bulmer? That would be rocking 3rd line.

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I think in time he'll be the replacement for Brodziak. He's not high octane offense, but he doesn't suck offensively. I think he'll be a 20-20 guy at his prime, maybe more depending on what line mates he gets set up with.

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03-17-2012, 06:52 PM
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I can't lie...

A Bulmer/Larsson/Zucker 3rd line does sound a bit dreamy.

Where do you guys rank Larsson with respect to Bulmer and Mario Lucia.

Bulmer is really showing he can score this year, he's been on fire lately, big frame, good skater....

Mario Lucia had an outstanding year, he's further away, but maybe a higher ceiling than either guy?

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I can't lie...

A Bulmer/Larsson/Zucker 3rd line does sound a bit dreamy.

Where do you guys rank Larsson with respect to Bulmer and Mario Lucia.

Bulmer is really showing he can score this year, he's been on fire lately, big frame, good skater....

Mario Lucia had an outstanding year, he's further away, but maybe a higher ceiling than either guy?
Larsson above both, he's scoring at his rate in the second(by many) best league in the world at 19-20 years of age playing against men. Bulmer is playing in Junior, which is a good developmental league, and Lucia is playing in a league below junior. We'll see what Lucia can do is he goes to Junior or college next year.

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03-17-2012, 07:01 PM
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Yeah but I'm not asking you to rank based on their leagues or age...etc...


You said yourself you see Larsson as a 20/20 guy, who is a 3rd liner.

As far as a future NHL player, who do you think has the higher ceilings etc, or do you see Bulmer and Lucia as 3rd line guys as their ceiling.

We all know Larsson is easily the closest one to making the club.

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Yeah but I'm not asking you to rank based on their leagues or age...etc...


You said yourself you see Larsson as a 20/20 guy, who is a 3rd liner.

As far as a future NHL player, who do you think has the higher ceilings etc, or do you see Bulmer and Lucia as 3rd line guys as their ceiling.

We all know Larsson is easily the closest one to making the club.
Bulmer is probably a 2nd-3rd line tweener, probably more suited to the third line(just going by on what a lot of people predict).

Lucia is hard to determine, he's scoring at like a 2.0PPG level, but he's playing in a real easy league probably by his standards. Once he hits the major junior leagues or college level, we'll probably see what he can do. At this rate I'm saying 2nd liner. HF's predicting this too, probably 2nd liner if he reaches his full potential.

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03-17-2012, 09:25 PM
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Not as good as Koivu but not as bad as Clutterbuck

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03-17-2012, 09:34 PM
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Two-way, playmaking center. Hopefully 2nd-line, no lower than 3rd-line.

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Not as good as Koivu but not as bad as Clutterbuck
how is clutterbuck bad? he's an elite 3rd liner and a very rare skill set, When a 3rd line guy can give you 15-20g's thats pretty good.

but I do see a Koivu-lite or a Brodziak 1.5 type player in him

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A cross between Mikko Koivu lite and an offensively talented Samuel Pahlsson. In other words, 2nd line forward with great defensively abilities.

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03-17-2012, 10:26 PM
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Some kids skills are transefeeable to the next level, some are not.
Larrson will be a 2.5 line type guy, step up from brodziak, more skill but can play good D..Bulmer is a proatypical 3 rd line power forward--- I like him alot, not with aenough skill to play top 6, bases on what i saw in WRD junior tryouts, but will play a valuable role !

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Lucia's ripping apart a good junior league, but I'd say it's #3 in Canada, behind the CCHL and the AJHL.

He's also on a dominant team.

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Lucia has the tools to be a 1st line, PPG player. The question is whether he can translate to college, than probably AHL, than NHL.

Kind of wish he just went to the CHL, than AHL, rather than go the college hockey route, but he probably would have been picked out of his family had he done that.

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I don't see Lucia ever making the Wild roster, unless we have another year like thisone, and we call up the entire Aeros team. I think people's "Minnesota boys are gods" bias is clouding their judgement on Lucia's skills.

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any player his age putting up the points he has is def someone to be excited about. that is not an easy league to play as a 18/19 year old.

ill temper my expectations but i cant help but be a little excited to the possibilities.

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hmmm

I don't see a reason NOT to be excited about Mario Lucia....albeit we all know he's 2-3 years at least away.

He's got good size, speed, hockey sense and has a great shot.

He has performed at every level he's played at ...stood out big time in HS and at Penicton.

Sure the test will be how he does at Notre Dame, but to say it's just a "Minnesota" thing and nepotism isn't right either. We traded up for him and took him 2nd round for a reason, in a deep draft. Fletcher doesn't care about this Minnesota crap where the guy is from. Afterall this is guy who traded away Leddy....

They took him cuz they think he's a player...so far it looks like it.

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people's "Minnesota boys are gods" bias
Doesn't exist on this board, only as an inside joke. Damn stereotypes...

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how is clutterbuck bad? he's an elite 3rd liner and a very rare skill set, When a 3rd line guy can give you 15-20g's thats pretty good.
Clutterbuck isn't bad but he's limited. I see Larsson with a bit more upside. 25ish goals, high energy and a good checker.

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