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02-26-2013, 07:34 PM
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If Real wanted Bale, they'd just bid an exorbitant amount of cash for him . Why swap for an inferior talent?
Because Ronaldo is not happy anymore at Real and Bale is younger.

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02-26-2013, 08:14 PM
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Because Ronaldo is not happy anymore at Real and Bale is younger.
That sounds like an awful swap for Real unless it includes 50M in cash attached with Bale.

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02-26-2013, 08:42 PM
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That sounds like an awful swap for Real unless it includes 50M in cash attached with Bale.
Add Nani in there as well. Besides, Bale is valued at quite high and he's proven himself on a very weak team in Cl already.

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02-26-2013, 08:46 PM
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Add Nani in there as well. Besides, Bale is valued at quite high and he's proven himself on a very weak team in Cl already.
You mean the 'very weak team' that's taken 4pts of 6 vs ManU this season?

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02-26-2013, 09:04 PM
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Add Nani in there as well. Besides, Bale is valued at quite high and he's proven himself on a very weak team in Cl already.
Regardless of how well he's played this year, there's still quite a gap between Ronaldo and Bale. Ronaldo and Messi sit in a class of their own. No reputable team would want Nani right now and his value is at an all-time low.

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02-26-2013, 09:56 PM
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Regardless of how well he's played this year, there's still quite a gap between Ronaldo and Bale. Ronaldo and Messi sit in a class of their own. No reputable team would want Nani right now and his value is at an all-time low.
Between Ronaldo at 24(when he moved for 80mil) & Bale at 24, when all you armchair pundits want him out of Tottenham?

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02-26-2013, 10:02 PM
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Between Ronaldo at 24(when he moved for 80mil) & Bale at 24, when all you armchair pundits want him out of Tottenham?
I never said Bale wanted to leave or that he should be moved, so save your accusations for the others in here. I simply suggested the EPL isn't the be all end all for players and replied to the post that suggested he be bought by Manure then swapped for Ronaldo.

Ronaldo hit 31 goals in 31 games when he was 22 turning 23 in the EPL. I think it's fair to say that there was a even a gap when they were the same age. Bale's definitely a top talent, but to place him in the same tier as Ronaldo or Messi is misguided.


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02-26-2013, 10:25 PM
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Ronaldo hit 31 goals in 31 games when he was 22 turning 23 in the EPL. I think it's fair to say that there was a even a gap when they were the same age. .
Well, at 23 Ronaldo had 18 goals in 33 games and at 23 Bale has 15 in 23 games.

I think it's fair to say...not much of a gap there.

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02-26-2013, 10:39 PM
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Well, at 23 Ronaldo had 18 goals in 33 games and at 23 Bale has 15 in 23 games.

I think it's fair to say...not much of a gap there.

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Ronaldo had 31 goals in 31 games when he was 23 . He had 18 in 33 games the year after when he was 24, but was a year where he was noted to be distracted due to Real's interest (if you want to call that an excuse).

There's obviously more to the game than statistics, and for me, it's quite clear that there was a difference in the level of skill and talent between Ronaldo and Bale. I'm not saying Bale is a scrub either, just that Ronaldo and Messi are on a different level.

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02-26-2013, 10:41 PM
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Well, at 23 Ronaldo had 18 goals in 33 games and at 23 Bale has 15 in 23 games.

I think it's fair to say...not much of a gap there.

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+ the fact that Bale has progressed through LB, LM to LW over the last 4 seasons & CR always was a full out attacker. Anyway, enough of boosting up his market value, Daniel is already on it & it'll be close to prohibitive anywhere & even more in England.

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02-26-2013, 10:48 PM
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For Bale to be Ronaldo he has dominate in two different leagues. Not that I don't think bale couldn't replicate elsewhere... He just has to do it

And has to play in the CL against europes elite

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02-26-2013, 10:50 PM
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For Bale to be Ronaldo he has dominate in two different leagues. Not that I don't think bale couldn't replicate elsewhere... He just has to do it

And has to play in the CL against europes elite
No he doesn't have to do that.

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02-26-2013, 11:01 PM
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For Bale to be Ronaldo he has dominate in two different leagues. Not that I don't think bale couldn't replicate elsewhere... He just has to do it

And has to play in the CL against europes elite
Already has.

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02-26-2013, 11:15 PM
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Already has.
It's a moot point really. He's not as good as Ronaldo was at the same age, nor do I think he will develop to the same level he is at now. Ronaldo and Messi are exceptional, generational talents. Bale is definitely a top talent though and there's nothing wrong with that.

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02-27-2013, 03:48 AM
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i dont think Bale and Ronaldo could play on the same team.

Of course it would look good on paper but both like to have the ball
I share your doubts and your reason for them.

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02-27-2013, 05:04 AM
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I simply suggested the EPL isn't the be all end all for players
For foreign players I would agree with you to an extent, but for British players it generally is the case. Bale may buck the trend and be the first (I don't count Beckham because despite he found silverware with his clubs I don't think he was the standard bearer in performance for any of his non English teams, and the majority of his success is down to him as a brand more then anything) British player to become a vital part of a top European team, be it Barcelona, Real Madrid, etc etc.

But history speaks otherwise, other than Beckham, who as I said above mostly ran his wave of celebrity and brand success, there has really been no other player to find long term success playing outside of the UK, not in recent modern times anyway.

As I said, Bale could be the first, and perhaps usher in the change that is really needed that Brit players get out of themselves and their comfort zones and challenge themselves in foreign climates, but I just cant see Bale doing it, just based on the history of it all.

I really believe if he can get a big money deal from you name it, Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal (haha I wish), that either matches or does better then offers he gets from outside of the EPL, I think he will take the EPL offer/offers, or at least consider them first.

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02-27-2013, 10:00 AM
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Ronaldo moved for 80mil four years ago, that's the kind of money that might make Daniel consider picking up the phone & if he is sold it won't be to a BPL team!

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02-27-2013, 01:53 PM
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You mean the 'very weak team' that's taken 4pts of 6 vs ManU this season?
And how far behind United are they? And how is that relevant to UCL?

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02-27-2013, 02:14 PM
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And how far behind United are they? And how is that relevant to UCL?
Miles behind ManU, but have played them well. They were not a 'very weak team' in the CL, they won their group, beat both Milan giants & were eliminated, emphatically, in the QF's by RM.

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02-27-2013, 02:23 PM
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Miles behind ManU, but have played them well. They were not a 'very weak team' in the CL, they won their group, beat both Milan giants & were eliminated, emphatically, in the QF's by RM.
At this board Real are consireded overrated, awful, utter crap, so getting trounced by them makes them vey weak.

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02-27-2013, 09:47 PM
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For Bale to be Ronaldo he has dominate in two different leagues. Not that I don't think bale couldn't replicate elsewhere... He just has to do it

And has to play in the CL against europes elite
So Messi has to dominate in a different league before you respect him? What a ridiculous argument. Obviously Ronaldo was better at the same age, but not by a huge margin. Well, a pretty big margin. But Bale is ****ing scary good, and a similar player in many respects.

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02-28-2013, 01:48 AM
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So Messi has to dominate in a different league before you respect him? What a ridiculous argument. Obviously Ronaldo was better at the same age, but not by a huge margin. Well, a pretty big margin. But Bale is ****ing scary good, and a similar player in many respects.
Everybody is actually not reading my post literally.

To be Ronaldo he has to follow Ronaldo's path. Which he can do since they both grew from the EPL when both were very young.



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02-28-2013, 08:49 AM
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Spurs need a CL spot in order to hold onto Bale this upcoming season. They are 3rd now and looking good. No reason for Bale to leave if Tottenham are in the CL next season.

Now if Barca, Madrid, City, Chelsea, Munich or Man U come in with a 60 million plus offer that might change things. Who knows.

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02-28-2013, 09:24 AM
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Spurs need a CL spot in order to hold onto Bale this upcoming season. They are 3rd now and looking good. No reason for Bale to leave if Tottenham are in the CL next season.

Now if Barca, Madrid, City, Chelsea, Munich or Man U come in with a 60 million plus offer that might change things. Who knows.

If Bale leaves, I repeat, it will not be to anybody in the BPL & 60mil doesn't even get Daniel to pick up the phone.

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02-28-2013, 01:02 PM
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i agree, i think it has to be AT THE LEAST 80m to even start a convo...

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